GAME DAY: Sens @ Blue Jackets, Tuesday, Oct 28, 7:00 PM

Nothing wrong with it but Lehner is showing no signs of slowing down and the way he's playing, basically the reason his team has come away with a point whenever he is in the net, you would be insane to take him out.

Interesting to compare articles from different cities.

On Lehner's save which led to the GWG (paraphrasing):
Ottawa - Lehner makes a huge save
Columbus - Hartnell shot it into Lehner's pads

NEELY wrote:Nothing wrong with it but Lehner is showing no signs of slowing down and the way he's playing, basically the reason his team has come away with a point whenever he is in the net, you would be insane to take him out.

Wait a sec though, Anderson was incredible vs Chicago and we couldn't score on Scott Cussing Darling. It was equally as good a performance.

dennycrane wrote:Interesting to compare articles from different cities.

On Lehner's save which led to the GWG (paraphrasing):
Ottawa - Lehner makes a huge save
Columbus - Hartnell shot it into Lehner's pads

All articles should simply read: "Legwand wins it for Sens again, with help from Clarke MacArthur."

NEELY wrote:Nothing wrong with it but Lehner is showing no signs of slowing down and the way he's playing, basically the reason his team has come away with a point whenever he is in the net, you would be insane to take him out.

Anderson is still the number 1 goalie and has looked just as good so no, it would not be insane to take Lehner out.

NEELY wrote:Lehner doing what he is doing right now is the game changer and turns ok teams into good or great teams. Making the big saves, at the most important times, and he comes out of the gate ready to go. Guy has franchise written all over him and has for a long time. He's in the process right now of taking the #1 job.

Anderson's positioning is better than Lehner. Lehner makes flashy saves sometimes because he is out of position and diving to get back in position (checkout that "save" he made last night while he was backwards inside the net). Once Lehner can stop shots early in the game that he should stop that put us in a hole, he'll be closer to taking the #1 position.

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:Lehner doing what he is doing right now is the game changer and turns ok teams into good or great teams.  Making the big saves, at the most important times, and he comes out of the gate ready to go.  Guy has franchise written all over him and has for a long time.  He's in the process right now of taking the #1 job.

Anderson's positioning is better than Lehner.  Lehner makes flashy saves sometimes because he is out of position and diving to get back in position (checkout that "save" he made last night while he was backwards inside the net).  Once Lehner can stop shots early in the game that he should stop that put us in a hole, he'll be closer to taking the #1 position.

That was a weird play though. It took an odd hop and Lehner was Cussed. Hartnell shot it right into his pads lol, if he had put it anywhere else that's an easy goal - and again, I'm not sure what Lehner could have done. He overcommitted I guess, so he'll learn from that, but it was a split second and an odd bounce I think.

Well There are those rap around goals on Anderson that shouldn't really happen.

Flo The Action wrote:Well There are those rap around goals on Anderson that shouldn't really happen.

I think SpezDispensed said it best:

SpezDispensed wrote:He overcommitted I guess, so he'll learn from that...

that hartnell save was more on hartnell not being able to roof the puck, so I tend to agree with cbj folks that he shot it into lehner. lucked out big time there.

that sequence though where they kept losing the faceoffs and lehner kept gloving down the puck was scary. whatever, take the win and run with it.

Michallica wrote:that hartnell save was more on hartnell not being able to roof the puck, so I tend to agree with cbj folks that he shot it into lehner.  lucked out big time there.

that sequence though where they kept losing the faceoffs and lehner kept gloving down the puck was scary.  whatever, take the win and run with it.  

We were bloody awful at faceoffs last night - and have been this year as a whole.

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:Lehner doing what he is doing right now is the game changer and turns ok teams into good or great teams.  Making the big saves, at the most important times, and he comes out of the gate ready to go.  Guy has franchise written all over him and has for a long time.  He's in the process right now of taking the #1 job.

Anderson's positioning is better than Lehner.  Lehner makes flashy saves sometimes because he is out of position and diving to get back in position (checkout that "save" he made last night while he was backwards inside the net).  Once Lehner can stop shots early in the game that he should stop that put us in a hole, he'll be closer to taking the #1 position.

Don't care how he looks stopping a puck. As for Anderson's positioning... he's constantly jumping to the other side of the net getting beat on wrap arounds, he isn't the best positionally either.

As for the #1... he's already 1B right now.

Why does one have to be better than the other? At this point, both goalies are playing phenomenal hockey, let's just leave it at that rather than trying to poke holes in each goalie's game. You can't go wrong starting either of them. Least of our problems.

Right now we need a legit second line center. I wouldn't mind trying Lazar in the middle with Zbad on his wing.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:Lehner doing what he is doing right now is the game changer and turns ok teams into good or great teams.  Making the big saves, at the most important times, and he comes out of the gate ready to go.  Guy has franchise written all over him and has for a long time.  He's in the process right now of taking the #1 job.

Anderson's positioning is better than Lehner.  Lehner makes flashy saves sometimes because he is out of position and diving to get back in position (checkout that "save" he made last night while he was backwards inside the net).  Once Lehner can stop shots early in the game that he should stop that put us in a hole, he'll be closer to taking the #1 position.

Don't care how he looks stopping a puck. As for Anderson's positioning... he's constantly jumping to the other side of the net getting beat on wrap arounds, he isn't the best positionally either.

As for the #1... he's already 1B right now.

Yes, Lehner is the #1B. The B stands for Backup. He is the #1 Backup.

Michallica wrote:Why does one have to be better than the other?  At this point, both goalies are playing phenomenal hockey, let's just leave it at that rather than trying to poke holes in each goalie's game.  You can't go wrong starting either of them.  Least of our problems.

Right now we need a legit second line center.  I wouldn't mind trying Lazar in the middle with Zbad on his wing.

Agreed with respect to the goalers.

As far as needing a legit 2nd line center, we have one, his name is David Legwand. Curtis "Own Goal" Lazar is not the answer yet.

Well Lehner absolutely has to be better than Anderson, that's the entire point to all of this. The next 10 years rest of Lehner's play while Anderson can be good, bad, or otherwise and it doesn't really effect the long term success of the franchise. Anderson playing the way he has is nothing but positive for the the team presently but 2 years down the road Anderson won't really matter.

Lehner being given the reigns is an inevitability, when is the only question. The way he is playing right now despite how well Anderson is playing (and he's playing fantastic) you run with Lehner. Guy might be the best goalie in the NHL right now just like he was last year after beating the Blue Jackets by himself. What caused the team to go off the tracks last year? Going back to the "#1" in Anderson despite his struggle last year. I think the results this year would be different if Anderson was in there, he's on his game but why risk it?

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:Lehner doing what he is doing right now is the game changer and turns ok teams into good or great teams.  Making the big saves, at the most important times, and he comes out of the gate ready to go.  Guy has franchise written all over him and has for a long time.  He's in the process right now of taking the #1 job.

Anderson's positioning is better than Lehner.  Lehner makes flashy saves sometimes because he is out of position and diving to get back in position (checkout that "save" he made last night while he was backwards inside the net).  Once Lehner can stop shots early in the game that he should stop that put us in a hole, he'll be closer to taking the #1 position.

Don't care how he looks stopping a puck.  As for Anderson's positioning... he's constantly jumping to the other side of the net getting beat on wrap arounds, he isn't the best positionally either.

As for the #1... he's already 1B right now.

Yes, Lehner is the #1B.  The B stands for Backup.  He is the #1 Backup.

For a back up a 50/50 split is pretty good... we'll see who starts Thursday.

NEELY wrote:
Lehner being given the reigns is an inevitability, when is the only question. The way he is playing right now despite how well Anderson is playing (and he's playing fantastic) you run with Lehner. Guy might be the best goalie in the NHL right now just like he was last year after beating the Blue Jackets by himself. What caused the team to go off the tracks last year? Going back to the "#1" in Anderson despite his struggle last year. I think the results this year would be different if Anderson was in there, he's on his game but why risk it?

I think once Lehner learns better positioning and doesn't give up soft goals like the first he allowed to Columbus last night, he could be considered our #1. I think, barring injuries, Anderson will get the majority of the starts this year. I also think Anderson starts on Thursday.