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2712014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:29 pm

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LeKing wrote:Just listened to Shawn Simpson and looks like Maclean and Murray don't like each other, based on his "sources" from the inside.

They seem to have a conflicting approach and philosophy on the game for sure.  Has Murray ever won a Jack Adams?
Perhaps their conflicting philosophies is as simple as a GM wanting the coach to play the kids and the coach playing the vets that he trusts and believes give him the best chance to win.

If that is the case it is on Murray.  You give the coach a roster, and it's up to the coach to deploy.  If you want Lehner over Anderson, remove Anderson as an option, etc...

That's basically what it comes down to.

2722014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:30 pm

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LeKing wrote:They're probably set on trading Spezza but will never admit it until they see what kind of offer they receive from the other teams.

4 million dollar salary, 7 million for the cap hit...

7x8 the year after

Fixed.

Pretty much yah... wouldn't give that much to Spezza today let along in 3 years.

2732014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:39 pm

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LeKing wrote:They're probably set on trading Spezza but will never admit it until they see what kind of offer they receive from the other teams.

They probably already have an idea given they were listening at the deadline, possibly sooner.

More of a question which offers they like best and will Spez waive his NTC there.

2742014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:41 pm

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Just lead an NHL team in scoring and is in the playoffs... 5.5 well spent.  Sens have Alfie this year and they are in the playoffs but at the end of the day it was a good thing they missed because it weeded out players that needed to be weeded out.

Yeah sure made good business sense to let him go and let Captain Giggleputz lead us to the golf course this year. And now the owner says we need new leadership when he let the best leadership we've ever had go because he cares more about his penny stocks.

2752014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:42 pm

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so... does anyone know what time BM is going on air with comments today?

2762014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:45 pm

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Just lead an NHL team in scoring and is in the playoffs... 5.5 well spent.  Sens have Alfie this year and they are in the playoffs but at the end of the day it was a good thing they missed because it weeded out players that needed to be weeded out.

Yeah sure made good business sense to let him go and let Captain Giggleputz lead us to the golf course this year.  And now the owner says we need new leadership when he let the best leadership we've ever had go because he cares more about his penny stocks.

He will never admit it but I think even Melnyk knows he f***ed up.  Anyways, I don't defend Melnyk for a lot but the budget thing at this point is a myth in the sense that we can't sign the right players.

2772014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:46 pm

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Hoags wrote:
LeKing wrote:They're probably set on trading Spezza but will never admit it until they see what kind of offer they receive from the other teams.

They probably already have an idea given they were listening at the deadline, possibly sooner.

More of a question which offers they like best and will Spez waive his NTC there.

St.Louis will be the team to throw them the best deal IMO... you watch what happens there when they can't score this playoff.

2782014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:47 pm

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NEELY wrote:
Hoags wrote:
LeKing wrote:They're probably set on trading Spezza but will never admit it until they see what kind of offer they receive from the other teams.

They probably already have an idea given they were listening at the deadline, possibly sooner.

More of a question which offers they like best and will Spez waive his NTC there.

St.Louis will be the team to throw them the best deal IMO... you watch what happens there when they can't score this playoff.

Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it. Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

2792014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:48 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:so... does anyone know what time BM is going on air with comments today?

1:30 PM conference

2802014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:48 pm

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He will never admit it but I think even Melnyk knows he f***ed up.  Anyways, I don't defend Melnyk for a lot but the budget thing at this point is a myth in the sense that we can't sign the right players.

It makes sense at this point because we don't even have a proven, solid core that you can win with, not quite. That's when it makes sense to spend more and put yourself over the top. Once they figure out who's in and who's out and those player actually gel and do some damage in a non lockout shortened season we might see a change in tune.

2812014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:48 pm

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Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it.  Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

Tarasenko  Nod

2822014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:49 pm

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I think we can all agree that the Sens' rebuild is not over and we are still transitioning until the Turris/Lazars/Karlsson become the leaders in the room.

2832014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:49 pm

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Hoags wrote:
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Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it.  Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

Tarasenko  Nod

No chance, don't even bother asking.

2842014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 pm

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Hoags wrote:
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Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it.  Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

Tarasenko  Nod

We preferred Rundblad over him so...

2852014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:50 pm

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LeKing wrote:I think we can all agree that the Sens' rebuild is not over and we are still transitioning until the Turris/Lazars/Karlsson become the leaders in the room.
What do you mean 'until' they become the leaders. IMO Turris is the leader of the forward group with the way he plays, the way he acts, the way he talks, everything. MacArthur too.

2862014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:51 pm

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LeKing wrote:
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SpezDispenser wrote:
Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it.  Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

Tarasenko  Nod

We preferred Rundblad over him so...

Best thing that could have happened to us. Rundblad over Tarasenko, then Rundblad + 2nd for Turris. Happy!

2872014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:52 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
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Hoags wrote:
LeKing wrote:They're probably set on trading Spezza but will never admit it until they see what kind of offer they receive from the other teams.

They probably already have an idea given they were listening at the deadline, possibly sooner.

More of a question which offers they like best and will Spez waive his NTC there.

St.Louis will be the team to throw them the best deal IMO... you watch what happens there when they can't score this playoff.

Not convinced they let Schwartz go the more I think about it.  Berglund maybe + prospect(s).

Not convinced they let Schwartz go either but that's exactly the player they will want from St.Louis, hell Ottawa wanted him badly at the draft as well.

2882014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 19 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:52 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:

Best thing that could have happened to us.  Rundblad over Tarasenko, then Rundblad + 2nd for Turris.  Happy!

But then we can have Tarasenko and Turris .....  Cheering 

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