2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk

spader wrote:

wprager wrote:
That's a hell of an expensive 4th line.  As much as I like Greening, you can't pay a 4th liner $2.6M.   Didn't Murray mention that at the deadline the player asked for the most by other GMs was Greening?  If not for the cap floor, I think Greening would be on the move.  Heck, even *with* the floor issue, we need a player like Greening to play in the top six.  And if it's not Greening then they have to move him and get someone who can play that role on the 2nd line.

I don't even know what to say about Smith any more.  He's not done as much as he needs to the last couple of years.  Still a good player but I don't think he's progressed from 2 years ago.

Why the hell not? Should they also renegotiate Hoff and Stone's contracts because they're being underpaid to play on the 3rd line? You're being silly.

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.

No way do they trade within the Division, so no need to put those teams on the list.

Toronto?

wprager wrote:Anyone read how the Elmira Jackals have dropped their affiliation with the Sens in favor of the Sabres?  That back-stabbing nephew.  #HouseMurray

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:You are looking for a missing piece and Ottawa has a bunch of 2nd/3rd line centers in the making that will fill that exact role.  Hanzal is a special type of player the way he plays the game, there are not a lot of those types of centers available.  

There are a lot of good fits for Spezza at this point.

ya, most importantly pheonix could use a name player. someone that can come in and put up points, and might draw some free agents. they might have a shot a getting hemsky if they trade for spezza by the draft.
there's a history between management. makes sense.
there's quite a few places that make sense also so it will be interesting where he goes.

St.Louis with Rundblad and Bishop
Colorado with Anderson (was apparently talking to Murray about Spezza too)
Phoenix with Turris
Columbus with Methot, Filatov, Leclaire (maybe less likely now)

The last thing Ottawa needs is a small, skilled center who will take on 3rd line role.  Da Costa, Pageau, to a much lesser extent Lazar.  Ottawa is filled with Vermette types.

I'm not advocating a trade for vermette. no no... Hanzal way over vermette.
i get the feeling that they'd be more interested to trade us yandle as opposed to hanzal though. unfortunately he's not a righty.

It's going to be a long wait until the draft, that's for sure.  I know for a fact the Sens are going to throw a ton of cash and term at Stastny though if they get a chance to.

NEELY wrote:We'll see.

sandysensfan wrote:
One captain leaving after 17 yrs.  The other captain traded the next season.  Budget..  Big mouth owner.. calling other Owner's idiots..  Yeah.. I don't think too many decent UFAs will look Ottawa's way.

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:We'll see.

One captain leaving after 17 yrs.  The other captain traded the next season.  Budget..  Big mouth owner.. calling other Owner's idiots..  Yeah.. I don't think too many decent UFAs will look Ottawa's way.

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:You are looking for a missing piece and Ottawa has a bunch of 2nd/3rd line centers in the making that will fill that exact role.  Hanzal is a special type of player the way he plays the game, there are not a lot of those types of centers available.  

There are a lot of good fits for Spezza at this point.

ya, most importantly pheonix could use a name player. someone that can come in and put up points, and might draw some free agents. they might have a shot a getting hemsky if they trade for spezza by the draft.
there's a history between management. makes sense.
there's quite a few places that make sense also so it will be interesting where he goes.

St.Louis with Rundblad and Bishop
Colorado with Anderson (was apparently talking to Murray about Spezza too)
Phoenix with Turris
Columbus with Methot, Filatov, Leclaire (maybe less likely now)

The last thing Ottawa needs is a small, skilled center who will take on 3rd line role.  Da Costa, Pageau, to a much lesser extent Lazar.  Ottawa is filled with Vermette types.

I'm not advocating a trade for vermette. no no... Hanzal way over vermette.
i get the feeling that they'd be more interested to trade us yandle as opposed to hanzal though. unfortunately he's not a righty.

It's going to be a long wait until the draft, that's for sure.  I know for a fact the Sens are going to throw a ton of cash and term at Stastny though if they get a chance to.

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:Pierre Mcguire seems to think that if the penguins are ousted in the first round, the pens might entertain trading Malkin.....

Yah, we'll see about that.  Probably a move that should have happened a couple years back but if that is the case you watch what Vancouver offers for Malkin.

NEELY wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:We'll see.

One captain leaving after 17 yrs.  The other captain traded the next season.  Budget..  Big mouth owner.. calling other Owner's idiots..  Yeah.. I don't think too many decent UFAs will look Ottawa's way.

Drama is for the media, Sandy.  That's it.  

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:We'll see.

One captain leaving after 17 yrs.  The other captain traded the next season.  Budget..  Big mouth owner.. calling other Owner's idiots..  Yeah.. I don't think too many decent UFAs will look Ottawa's way.

Drama is for the media, Sandy.  That's it.  

Drama is for sure for the media but melnyk needs to give BM a Cussing check book to go after a some of these guys. there's not many reasons why he's holding on to the lip service. that casino is long gone.

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

NEELY wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

NEELY wrote:We'll see.

One captain leaving after 17 yrs.  The other captain traded the next season.  Budget..  Big mouth owner.. calling other Owner's idiots..  Yeah.. I don't think too many decent UFAs will look Ottawa's way.

Drama is for the media, Sandy.  That's it.  

Drama is for sure for the media but melnyk needs to give BM a Cussing check book to go after a some of these guys. there's not many reasons why he's holding on to the lip service. that casino is long gone.

Did they not sign MacArthur and trade in salary for Ryan last summer? That's what, 9 mill right there?