SENS OFF-SEASON TALK 2013

Ev wrote:From a legit poster, and someone I trust, on DobberHockey:

I remember reading this when you (Ev) posted it back in April, and after talking to someone today, I can all but guarantee that Briere wants to play in Ottawa to end his career, so if Ottawa wants him (which they should at least consider, imo), I'm sure there is a deal to be made that wouldn't cost Ottawa all that much.

Briere isn't nearly what he used to be, but with Alfredsson possibly retiring, adding another veteran like Briere would only help the young kids in Ottawa.

I've heard the same rumblings as well.

Would be it would be something like JOB for Briere.

The Murrays like to bring in guys that WANT to be here. Can't see them passing up on Briere.

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:From a legit poster, and someone I trust, on DobberHockey:

I remember reading this when you (Ev) posted it back in April, and after talking to someone today, I can all but guarantee that Briere wants to play in Ottawa to end his career, so if Ottawa wants him (which they should at least consider, imo), I'm sure there is a deal to be made that wouldn't cost Ottawa all that much.

Briere isn't nearly what he used to be, but with Alfredsson possibly retiring, adding another veteran like Briere would only help the young kids in Ottawa.

I've heard the same rumblings as well.

Would be it would be something like JOB for Briere.

I think he'll just get signed.

I think Philly would rather move him and save a compliance buyout and JOB won't be playing much next year if at all and Philly will need a body. Makes sense to ask him to waive his NTC for Ottawa and that's that.

NEELY wrote:I think Philly would rather move him and save a compliance buyout and JOB won't be playing much next year if at all and Philly will need a body. Makes sense to ask him to waive his NTC for Ottawa and that's that.

Would make sense for Philly but if I'm Briere I wanna be bought out to get an actualy salary increase, if possible.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:I think Philly would rather move him and save a compliance buyout and JOB won't be playing much next year if at all and Philly will need a body. Makes sense to ask him to waive his NTC for Ottawa and that's that.

Would make sense for Philly but if I'm Briere I wanna be bought out to get an actualy salary increase, if possible.

I was thinking that too. 2.5 is way below what he's actually worth. Still....if Ottawa wants him and asks him to waive, I hope he at least considers it.

Goes against the MacLean want of adding a big bodied goal scorer.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:I think Philly would rather move him and save a compliance buyout and JOB won't be playing much next year if at all and Philly will need a body. Makes sense to ask him to waive his NTC for Ottawa and that's that.

Would make sense for Philly but if I'm Briere I wanna be bought out to get an actualy salary increase, if possible.

Getting traded vs getting bought out is pretty hard on the ego and say what you want about it making sense from an economics standpoint but there is no way any NHLer player who gives a damn wants to be bought out. It is humiliating.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The suggestion Lucic might get squeezed out is hilariously ludicrous.

Clarkson will get a huge contract. Do we want him for $5M x 5 yrs?

Clowe had 3 goals this year.

Horton is a reasonable option.

Clarkson either goes to Toronto or stays in NJ... if he signs in Ottawa it will be nothing short of an overpayment. He is going to get a 7 year deal for sure and probably around 6 mil per. Yah, that's the kind of money he is going to get. He will then be handed the "C" in Toronto after they left Phaneuf go or trade him. Bring this back up in 2 years time please.

Clowe is awful.

Ryder is an option because he can play with top end talent, same as Briere. Bickell would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Clowe has a habit of showing up in the post-season (9 points in 13 games in '08; 10 points in 15 games in '10; 15 points in 17 games in '11) and is a physical presence (hits, fights). He's not the answer to Lucic, but he would be a pretty big help to OTT in the postseason.

To me, OTT's #1 need is guys who can elevate their play in the postseason. Alfie is a guy like that, ditto Anderson, Turris & Greening seem to be becoming guys like that -- but a significant chunk of our core struggles under the pressure, or just don't know how to elevate their game. Spezza plays the same game in the postseason and is often less effective as a result; Karlsson hasn't figured out how to command a game in the playoffs the same way he does in the regular season; and Cowen is really inconsistent and sometimes wilts. We need more guys who know how to turn it up, so they can show the way for those who don't.

It's hard to say that though, we didn't get a look at these players this year under normal circumstances, most of the stars were either not playing or playing at half speed.

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:I think Philly would rather move him and save a compliance buyout and JOB won't be playing much next year if at all and Philly will need a body. Makes sense to ask him to waive his NTC for Ottawa and that's that.

Would make sense for Philly but if I'm Briere I wanna be bought out to get an actualy salary increase, if possible.

Getting traded vs getting bought out is pretty hard on the ego and say what you want about it making sense from an economics standpoint but there is no way any NHLer player who gives a damn wants to be bought out. It is humiliating.

There's really no need for that with him making only 5 million over the next 2 seasons. The stars are lining up nicely for this deal.

rooneypoo wrote:

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The suggestion Lucic might get squeezed out is hilariously ludicrous.

Clarkson will get a huge contract. Do we want him for $5M x 5 yrs?

Clowe had 3 goals this year.

Horton is a reasonable option.

Clarkson either goes to Toronto or stays in NJ... if he signs in Ottawa it will be nothing short of an overpayment. He is going to get a 7 year deal for sure and probably around 6 mil per. Yah, that's the kind of money he is going to get. He will then be handed the "C" in Toronto after they left Phaneuf go or trade him. Bring this back up in 2 years time please.

Clowe is awful.

Ryder is an option because he can play with top end talent, same as Briere. Bickell would be a perfect fit on the 4th line.

Clowe has a habit of showing up in the post-season (9 points in 13 games in '08; 10 points in 15 games in '10; 15 points in 17 games in '11) and is a physical presence (hits, fights). He's not the answer to Lucic, but he would be a pretty big help to OTT in the postseason.

To me, OTT's #1 need is guys who can elevate their play in the postseason. Alfie is a guy like that, ditto Anderson, Turris & Greening seem to be becoming guys like that -- but a significant chunk of our core struggles under the pressure, or just don't know how to elevate their game. Spezza plays the same game in the postseason and is often less effective as a result; Karlsson hasn't figured out how to command a game in the playoffs the same way he does in the regular season; and Cowen is really inconsistent and sometimes wilts. We need more guys who know how to turn it up, so they can show the way for those who don't.

If you like Clowe then why not Bickell? Way younger, doesn't have the injuries, and is hitting his prime. That's the guy you go after and go after hard. He's clearly proving that his game only gets better in the post season as well.

Briere is also a guy who gets better when the games matter but no matter you need a 30-40 goal guy and despite my person reservation (as if they matter or anyone cares) Ryan is probably that guy they will give up enough for.

SpezDispenser wrote:It's hard to say that though, we didn't get a look at these players this year under normal circumstances, most of the stars were either not playing or playing at half speed.

Karlsson was at half speed, Spezza has shown in the past he can be a PPG player (he will never be a heavy hitter, even though he gave some nice hits this year and took a whopper to make play, bounced right back); Cowen just wasn't anywhere close to game shape and still recovering -- I'd give him a mulligan this year. Pageau certainly stepped up; Silfverberg and Zibanejad were not ready but it's their first season in the N/A game, Play off Edition -- two more mulligans.

We still need the game breaker who can turn on the jets, fight through the holding and hitting and get to the net. Or two. And a RHS D-man.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:It's hard to say that though, we didn't get a look at these players this year under normal circumstances, most of the stars were either not playing or playing at half speed.

Karlsson was at half speed, Spezza has shown in the past he can be a PPG player (he will never be a heavy hitter, even though he gave some nice hits this year and took a whopper to make play, bounced right back); Cowen just wasn't anywhere close to game shape and still recovering -- I'd give him a mulligan this year. Pageau certainly stepped up; Silfverberg and Zibanejad were not ready but it's their first season in the N/A game, Play off Edition -- two more mulligans.

We still need the game breaker who can turn on the jets, fight through the holding and hitting and get to the net. Or two. And a RHS D-man.

Those guys are hard to fine. Briere fits the bill though.

SpezDispenser wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:It's hard to say that though, we didn't get a look at these players this year under normal circumstances, most of the stars were either not playing or playing at half speed.

Karlsson was at half speed, Spezza has shown in the past he can be a PPG player (he will never be a heavy hitter, even though he gave some nice hits this year and took a whopper to make play, bounced right back); Cowen just wasn't anywhere close to game shape and still recovering -- I'd give him a mulligan this year. Pageau certainly stepped up; Silfverberg and Zibanejad were not ready but it's their first season in the N/A game, Play off Edition -- two more mulligans.

We still need the game breaker who can turn on the jets, fight through the holding and hitting and get to the net. Or two. And a RHS D-man.

Those guys are hard to fine. Briere fits the bill though.

Some of those may be in our lineup (or in Bingo's) already. Ceci is a RHD D-Man who (given some time and proper coaching) can develop into that 2nd pairing guy who's good defensively and creates offense. Let's face it, as much as we were surprised with Gryba's progress, he is likely better suited to the 3rd pairing/PK role.

Silfverberg has shown that game-breaking ability in the SEL and it may only be a matter of time before he figures out the NHL game. Don't forget that his rookie season was the marked with Spezza's back surgery, Karlsson's Achilles, Anderson's high-ankle sprain and Michalek's knee problems. Silfverberg was supposed to either be riding shotgun with the 4th leading scorer in the NHL, or being eased into the top six slowly. Instead they were playing 2-1 or 3-2 games for most of a compressed season.

All that said, getting Briere (for nothing) would be great.

Kerby Rychel and Adam Erne will attend the Sens draft combine next week, among others TBA

Ev wrote:Kerby Rychel and Adam Erne will attend the Sens draft combine next week, among others TBA

The "Sens draft combine"? Are they holding a separate one?

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Kerby Rychel and Adam Erne will attend the Sens draft combine next week, among others TBA

The "Sens draft combine"? Are they holding a separate one?

they always invite a few players over to ottawa before the draft. their own interviews and the such

Flo The Action wrote:

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:Kerby Rychel and Adam Erne will attend the Sens draft combine next week, among others TBA

The "Sens draft combine"? Are they holding a separate one?

they always invite a few players over to ottawa before the draft. their own interviews and the such

Ah, so it's just interviews? Or are they going to try and kill them, too?