SENS OFF-SEASON TALK 2013

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:As for the draft, still hoping the Sens trade down a little to land Hartman.

I like him but think they go with pure skill or a big guy with grit and scoring. I understand Hartman plays bigger than his size but we have that type of guy in Conacher if we wanna use him.

I think Shinkaruk might make a lot of sense for Ottawa, if he drops like he has been lately. Pure goal scorer.

I think they will get somebody good regardless, and Domi, Horvat, Wennberg, Burakovsky (W), Mantha, Lazar, Gauthier, Rychel and Jason Dickinson will probably be all on the radar.

Dickinson is another guy who they could trade down a little to get. He is so skilled, but scouts have varied opinions on him. Mark Edwards from HockeyProspect really loves him and I respect his opinion a lot on draft prospects.

Hartman will play in the NHL around or over the 200lb mark... huge difference there. He was also a rookie in the OHL this year so having the kind of year he had is all the more impressive. He can skate, he can score, he does all the things needed to be tough to play against. Maybe they try and trade up to land a kid like Domi but they probably won't have a shot at him.

You could be right though, maybe they swing for the fences and try and grab a winger that has a high ceiling that's a bit more risky, could happen and it makes sense. The only thing I disagree with on is the Murray's and Dorion taking a faller in the draft... Sens tend to land the risers.

I agree but also feel it's a bit mixed with Cowen and Puempel being 1st round fallers (injuries).

LeKing wrote:The thing about the Sens and especially Dorion is that he follows a lot of prospects 1 to 2 years before their draft year so he knows prospect's potential in case they get injured before their draft year. Maidens, Stone are good examples. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens again this year.

Hoags wrote:

LeKing wrote:The thing about the Sens and especially Dorion is that he follows a lot of prospects 1 to 2 years before their draft year so he knows prospect's potential in case they get injured before their draft year. Maidens, Stone are good examples. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens again this year.

Lots of teams do this. It's only a question of philosophy. We valued Karlsson enough to trade up and grab him. Other teams didn't think he was worth #15 overall.

Hoags wrote:

LeKing wrote:The thing about the Sens and especially Dorion is that he follows a lot of prospects 1 to 2 years before their draft year so he knows prospect's potential in case they get injured before their draft year. Maidens, Stone are good examples. Wouldn't be surprised if it happens again this year.

Lots of teams do this. It's only a question of philosophy. We valued Karlsson enough to trade up and grab him. Other teams didn't think he was worth #15 overall.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:As for the draft, still hoping the Sens trade down a little to land Hartman.

I like him but think they go with pure skill or a big guy with grit and scoring. I understand Hartman plays bigger than his size but we have that type of guy in Conacher if we wanna use him.

I think Shinkaruk might make a lot of sense for Ottawa, if he drops like he has been lately. Pure goal scorer.

I think they will get somebody good regardless, and Domi, Horvat, Wennberg, Burakovsky (W), Mantha, Lazar, Gauthier, Rychel and Jason Dickinson will probably be all on the radar.

Dickinson is another guy who they could trade down a little to get. He is so skilled, but scouts have varied opinions on him. Mark Edwards from HockeyProspect really loves him and I respect his opinion a lot on draft prospects.

tim1_2 wrote:We already decided that Bryan Bickell will solve all of our problems. 30 goals on a line with Spezza, plus size to spare. Boom.

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:We already decided that Bryan Bickell will solve all of our problems. 30 goals on a line with Spezza, plus size to spare. Boom.

Oh yeah, that's true. And Stalberg as a 'just in case'

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:We already decided that Bryan Bickell will solve all of our problems. 30 goals on a line with Spezza, plus size to spare. Boom.

Oh yeah, that's true. And Stalberg as a 'just in case'

Seriously though, it's hard to see us bringing in more than 2 wingers. If those two are Bickell and Briere, would anyone be upset with that, assuming they're brought in as free agents?

Of course, the trade route is always open, but there's a bazillion different options there so it's kinda hard to discuss.

tim1_2 wrote:I guess trading for Briere depends on what Philly asks for...anyway, assuming our forward additions this summer are Briere and Bickell, is anyone NOT happy with that?

SpezDispenser wrote:
Can't imagine anyone not happy.

tim1_2 wrote:Pierre McGuire already decided that Bryan Bickell will solve all of our problems. 30 goals on a line with Spezza, plus size to spare. Boom.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:
Can't imagine anyone not happy.

People who want a bigger splash. Lots of people were upset all we got is Latendresse and Lundin last summer instead of Nash(for example).

tim1_2 wrote:Pierre McGuire already decided that Bryan Bickell will solve all of our problems. 30 goals on a line with Spezza, plus size to spare. Boom.

That's more like it.