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946Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 64 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:03 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:yes well I think ROR IS asking for more money and just the fact that he didn't signed a lower deal with a trade following (like Turris) is a sign that that's the money he's looking for.
I aslo didn't realized you were offering next years 1st. still too much, maybe a second.
The deal I see is Greening, zib and the 2014 second tops(but preferably a 3rd).
I guess none of us are too hot on Greening right now so we'd all buy in. then again I wonder if they'd go for Pumpel instead of Zib.

yes Greening(or smith), Pumpel and a 2nd is good enough.

I'm not offering anything, lol, I'm just spit balling and I said it would be on the condition that they make it to the conference final which would be the 27th-30th pick.

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Hoags wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:yes well I think ROR IS asking for more money and just the fact that he didn't signed a lower deal with a trade following (like Turris) is a sign that that's the money he's looking for.
I aslo didn't realized you were offering next years 1st. still too much, maybe a second.
The deal I see is Greening, zib and the 2014 second tops(but preferably a 3rd).
I guess none of us are too hot on Greening right now so we'd all buy in. then again I wonder if they'd go for Pumpel instead of Zib.

yes Greening(or smith), Pumpel and a 2nd is good enough.

You might have to offer a lot to outbid the serious interest from other teams. People were pissed when they saw what we gave up for Turris. If we land ROR I think people will be a little shocked at the price.

However I think we need to seize the opportunity. Spezza has 2 years left and he might blow his back out again next year and we'll be in the same place as this year.

As for his contract demands, I suspect he wants out, Turris wanted the same amount but later admitted it wasn't about the money and he simply made an outrageous demand to force a trade.

Exactly, I am of the opinion that ROR wants out, that's it and he isn't playing hard ball, he just wants to make it impossible for Colorado to sign him.

A team like the Pens getting ROR or the Rangers would make it that much harder for the Sens to actually win out in the East. Ottawa is probably best situated to make a move for ROR and for the turn from decent team to contender with him.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Again though, I'm actually not sure how long away Ceci is. 2 years? 1 maybe? 3?

Not sure where Ceci's learning curve lies, it's been a weird year for him and I have no idea what Ottawa's management really thinks about him. If he made the team out of camp I wouldn't be surprised. If he didn't crack the roster for 2 more seasons I wouldn't be surprised.

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NEELY wrote:
A team like the Pens getting ROR or the Rangers would make it that much harder for the Sens to actually win out in the East. Ottawa is probably best situated to make a move for ROR and for the turn from decent team to contender with him.

I don't think Rangers and Pens have the cap space down the road, they have to guys to re-sign. We're very well positioned to pull this move off and not Diddle up our cap in the future. Hell we might even have to do this to hit the floor for next year.

It's worth doing so no other team in the East does that needs centres(Buffalo, Moronto, Montreal etc.)

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Making a move for him just so other teams don't get him isn't the best idea but if he's a player you really believe in and other teams are trying to get that player as well and you know he will make your life hell... maybe over pay a little just because.

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NEELY wrote:Making a move for him just so other teams don't get him isn't the best idea but if he's a player you really believe in and other teams are trying to get that player as well and you know he will make your life hell... maybe over pay a little just because.

Not worth doing it in the sense of only to stop other teams but it's a consideration. We have a legitimate need and we have the assets to pull it off. If we don't, someone else in our conference will.

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ROR is going East for sure, I don't think anyone is questioning that. Anyways, we'll see but Ottawa needs ROR and I would imagine a young player like that who would have a huge roll would welcome the Sens organization.

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I'll also say that I am a bit bias in my opinion on a trade simply because I don't think that highly of Zibanejad and if he has that kind of value to other GM's around the NHL I would pull the trigger. Maybe Murray and others don't share my view but that's how I would see it.

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NEELY wrote:I'll also say that I am a bit bias in my opinion on a trade simply because I don't think that highly of Zibanejad and if he has that kind of value to other GM's around the NHL I would pull the trigger. Maybe Murray and others don't share my view but that's how I would see it.

Well they supposedly were offering him up for Nash so he's not "untradeable". I think Noesen will be the best player from that draft for us.

955Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 64 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:48 pm

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Hoags wrote:
NEELY wrote:I'll also say that I am a bit bias in my opinion on a trade simply because I don't think that highly of Zibanejad and if he has that kind of value to other GM's around the NHL I would pull the trigger. Maybe Murray and others don't share my view but that's how I would see it.

Well they supposedly were offering him up for Nash so he's not "untradeable". I think Noesen will be the best player from that draft for us.

I also share that opinion.

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Hoags wrote:
NEELY wrote:I'll also say that I am a bit bias in my opinion on a trade simply because I don't think that highly of Zibanejad and if he has that kind of value to other GM's around the NHL I would pull the trigger. Maybe Murray and others don't share my view but that's how I would see it.

Well they supposedly were offering him up for Nash so he's not "untradeable". I think Noesen will be the best player from that draft for us.

We said that a lot all summer. He's the guy that won't make it to next summer - not because he's bad, but because he's a VERY tradeable asset.

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Not a great year so far in the OHL for Noesen. It would be nice to see him finish really strong.

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NEELY wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Again though, I'm actually not sure how long away Ceci is. 2 years? 1 maybe? 3?

Not sure where Ceci's learning curve lies, it's been a weird year for him and I have no idea what Ottawa's management really thinks about him. If he made the team out of camp I wouldn't be surprised. If he didn't crack the roster for 2 more seasons I wouldn't be surprised.

His defense needs to be a lot better. I think he starts in the AHL.

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NEELY wrote:
Hoags wrote:
NEELY wrote:I'll also say that I am a bit bias in my opinion on a trade simply because I don't think that highly of Zibanejad and if he has that kind of value to other GM's around the NHL I would pull the trigger. Maybe Murray and others don't share my view but that's how I would see it.

Well they supposedly were offering him up for Nash so he's not "untradeable". I think Noesen will be the best player from that draft for us.

I also share that opinion.

Noeson had a hattrick in his last game..

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sandysensfan wrote:
NEELY wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Again though, I'm actually not sure how long away Ceci is. 2 years? 1 maybe? 3?

Not sure where Ceci's learning curve lies, it's been a weird year for him and I have no idea what Ottawa's management really thinks about him. If he made the team out of camp I wouldn't be surprised. If he didn't crack the roster for 2 more seasons I wouldn't be surprised.

His defense needs to be a lot better. I think he starts in the AHL.

Can't see him not starting there - I guess we'll see. He could have a great camp and make it.

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Would be nice if Owen sound gets eliminated fast so ceci gets some bingo experience

962Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 64 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:53 pm

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Cody Ceci is the worst draft pick by the Murrays during their tenure

963Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! - Page 64 Empty Re: Ottawa Senators TIDBITS & QUICK HITS! Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:01 pm

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Ev wrote:Cody Ceci is the worst draft pick by the Murrays during their tenure

Harsh. Some would say Zibanejad might be the worst if we're considering first rounders...not you though Laugh1

They needed a dman after trading rundblad and I'm quite content we chose ceci. Who else was there? Olli maata?

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