Trade Bonanza 2012! Speculation, Rumours, the Works!

SpezDispenser wrote:I thought O'Brien looked good - or maybe the rest of the team looked bad...

Either way, bring up Petersson please! I'd like to see him with Spezza for 3 games to make an assessment - and now's as good a time as any.

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

sandysensfan wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

Sooner have Stone.... the cost is too high for Ruutu and he may walk away in about 3 mos...

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I thought O'Brien looked good - or maybe the rest of the team looked bad...

Either way, bring up Petersson please! I'd like to see him with Spezza for 3 games to make an assessment - and now's as good a time as any.

Better time would have been the last 3-4 games of the road trip, when the team was tired, the month was already a success, and expectation for additional wins were low.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

Sooner have Stone.... the cost is too high for Ruutu and he may walk away in about 3 mos...

I have a feeling that Ruutu will be a Senator come Friday, at the latest. The cost: Stone, Gryba a 2nd and a 4th. That still our 1st to trade if need be.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

Sooner have Stone.... the cost is too high for Ruutu and he may walk away in about 3 mos...

I have a feeling that Ruutu will be a Senator come Friday, at the latest. The cost: Stone, Gryba a 2nd and a 4th. That still our 1st to trade if need be.

Holy cow that's a lot to pay. Stone + Gryba + 2nd + 4th? Don't do it!

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

Sooner have Stone.... the cost is too high for Ruutu and he may walk away in about 3 mos...

I have a feeling that Ruutu will be a Senator come Friday, at the latest. The cost: Stone, Gryba a 2nd and a 4th. That still our 1st to trade if need be.

Holy cow that's a lot to pay. Stone + Gryba + 2nd + 4th? Don't do it!

I'm assuming that the 2nd is the conditional piece of the puzzle. We'll know for sure in the coming days.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Michallica wrote:Here's a question....would you part with a Mark Stone if it meant we got Ruutu (at the moment, a future UFA Ruutu)?

My answer would be NO!

Only if he re-signs immediately.

EDIT: Then I think that we have enough streaky players on this team as it is, do we need another? Ruutu's a nice player, but is he the goal-scorer we so desperately need? Hard to say.

Exactly. I don't get the hype around Ruutu. He's good but if we have to trade a 1st and a prospect to get him, I'd rather they go bigger than ruutu.

Sooner have Stone.... the cost is too high for Ruutu and he may walk away in about 3 mos...

I have a feeling that Ruutu will be a Senator come Friday, at the latest. The cost: Stone, Gryba a 2nd and a 4th. That still leaves our 1st to trade if need be.

Big Ev wrote:this draft sucks, so I would give up the 1st easily, if we are getting something god in return

Hoags wrote:Oh FFS I hope Murray doesn't mortgage the future in a lame attempt to get Alfie a cup. This team will be lucky to win a single playoff game.

I'm all for winning but don't give up a good prospect for a pending UFA, much less a 1st.

rooneypoo wrote:

Hoags wrote:Oh FFS I hope Murray doesn't mortgage the future in a lame attempt to get Alfie a cup. This team will be lucky to win a single playoff game.

I'm all for winning but don't give up a good prospect for a pending UFA, much less a 1st.

If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm not prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players in projected to go in the the 10-60 spots of the draft.

rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Hoags wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

sandysensfan wrote:Are they showcasing Jim O'Brien?

Hoags wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).