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sandysensfan wrote:Are they showcasing Jim O'Brien?

I wondered that, too.

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Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

I'm legitimately curious where you come up with some of this stuff. please enlighten us

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Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

I'm legitimately curious where you come up with some of this stuff. please enlighten us

Seriously. It's like when people make neurological diagnoses from their computer chair. Sarcasm

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in this case i would like to know where he heard Bogosian was a quote, Massive Sens Fan.

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Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

I'm legitimately curious where you come up with some of this stuff. please enlighten us

First thing I googled:


Local Flavor: Zach Bogosian is from Massena, New York, only an hour from Ottawa and was a Sens fan growing up

http://www.senstown.com/2011/11/gdp-24-sens-winnipeg.html

It's not a secret that he's a Sens fan lol

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Big Ev wrote:in this case i would like to know where he heard Bogosian was a quote, Massive Sens Fan.

Ha. I'm still waiting to hear how you're able to un-diagnose concussions. Laugh1

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

I'm legitimately curious where you come up with some of this stuff. please enlighten us

First thing I googled:


Local Flavor: Zach Bogosian is from Massena, New York, only an hour from Ottawa and was a Sens fan growing up

http://www.senstown.com/2011/11/gdp-24-sens-winnipeg.html

It's not a secret that he's a Sens fan lol

you'll have to do better than that, my friend Spez D

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Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I truly think Bogo's that option. I recall when he didn't want to sign his RFA with Atlanta, but did in the end. He's a massive Sens fan too - all the requisites to be someone that might be available at the right price and that we should present Winnipeg with that right price (IMO).

I'm legitimately curious where you come up with some of this stuff. please enlighten us

First thing I googled:


Local Flavor: Zach Bogosian is from Massena, New York, only an hour from Ottawa and was a Sens fan growing up

http://www.senstown.com/2011/11/gdp-24-sens-winnipeg.html

It's not a secret that he's a Sens fan lol

you'll have to do better than that, my friend Spez D

I'll look when I have more time, but I've heard it more than once.

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spader wrote:
Big Ev wrote:in this case i would like to know where he heard Bogosian was a quote, Massive Sens Fan.

Ha. I'm still waiting to hear how you're able to un-diagnose concussions. Laugh1

Intuition. Said Crosby didn't have a concussion, was right. Wouldn't be surprised if all these concussions are just general soreness or neck/spine issues instead.

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2nd thing I googled:

http://jawandapuck.blogspot.com/2011/08/winnipeg-jets-should-trade-zach.html

Bogosian is from the US-Canada border town of Massena, New York, which is just over an hour away from Ottawa (apparently his favorite NHL team growing up). Bogosian has been traveling to Ottawa once a week this summer to train. While in in Ottawa, Bogosian had this to say (Aug 9/11):

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SpezDispenser wrote:2nd thing I googled:

http://jawandapuck.blogspot.com/2011/08/winnipeg-jets-should-trade-zach.html

Bogosian is from the US-Canada border town of Massena, New York, which is just over an hour away from Ottawa (apparently his favorite NHL team growing up). Bogosian has been traveling to Ottawa once a week this summer to train. While in in Ottawa, Bogosian had this to say (Aug 9/11):

You'll have to ask Bogosian himself, sorry Sarcasm

PTFlea

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Big Ev wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:2nd thing I googled:

http://jawandapuck.blogspot.com/2011/08/winnipeg-jets-should-trade-zach.html

Bogosian is from the US-Canada border town of Massena, New York, which is just over an hour away from Ottawa (apparently his favorite NHL team growing up). Bogosian has been traveling to Ottawa once a week this summer to train. While in in Ottawa, Bogosian had this to say (Aug 9/11):

You'll have to ask Bogosian himself, sorry Sarcasm

I'd like to. Right after he's been acquired for our 1st + Gryba. Smile

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Well, I posted a "value of" thread on HF and people said there was no way he'd be moved and called Bogosian a 'franchise D-man' - which I disagree with, but w/e.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Well, I posted a "value of" thread on HF and people said there was no way he'd be moved and called Bogosian a 'franchise D-man' - which I disagree with, but w/e.

He certainly has the potential. Whether he'll realize that potential in the NHL is another story.

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spader wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Well, I posted a "value of" thread on HF and people said there was no way he'd be moved and called Bogosian a 'franchise D-man' - which I disagree with, but w/e.

He certainly has the potential. Whether he'll realize that potential in the NHL is another story.

I'm tempted to say what you see is what you get, but I think he'll get slightly better - which is still really strong obviously, but I disagree that he's a 'franchise' D-man. There aren't many of those.

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rooneypoo wrote:
Hoags wrote:Oh FFS I hope Murray doesn't mortgage the future in a lame attempt to get Alfie a cup. This team will be lucky to win a single playoff game.

I'm all for winning but don't give up a good prospect for a pending UFA, much less a 1st.

If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

I will always give Dorion and the staff a 1st round pick to work with TBH. Galchenyuk/Collberg/Ceci would be there around 15 possibly.
This is based on the fact I don't think We're getting a player of Bogosian's calibre with that 1st rounder especially in February where the 1st is still in a playoff position.

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rooneypoo wrote:
Hoags wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
If there's another Turris-esque opportunity out there -- i.e., a good young player with high potential but not in the best of circumstances -- then I certainly would consider moving our 1st. For example: Bogosian for our 1st+? Done.

I wouldn't move it for a pure rental, but for a good young player, yes. I'm no prospect expert, but I don't get the sense that there's a whole lot of excitement building for the players projected to go in the top 10-60 spots of the draft.

Oh if there's a Turris-esque opportunity out there ... sure.

I really doubt it, can't really think of anything, can't see Jets would trade Bogosian.

Turris was a special case that we pounced on. He forced Phoenix to trade him, they wouldn't have otherwise, that doesn't happen often.

But for a pending UFA ... don't give up a lot just because there's a bidding war going on (lots of buyers, few sellers). We'll be doing a better job rebuilding the Hurricanes than the Sens.

I tend to agree -- but my larger point is that we shouldn't consider that 1st rounder as somehow untouchable. If there is any mid- to long-term upgrade to be had, then we need to be open to the possibility of moving it.

I've been saying so for weeks.

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