2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch

Big Ev wrote:Yeah and Huberdeau is 8th. Diddle these rankings, they're all different.

Diddle, I didn't look at the actual list, that doesn't sound right.

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

Big Ev wrote:My early mock (subject to change)

Landeskog could fall to us IMO. This draft is way too unpredictable to say there is no chance of that, or Larsson falling, happening.

This is the last thing I see happening. Of all the forwards in the top 5 he is easily the most likeable person, the most mature, and the one who brings some things different that none of the others have. I think he goes top 3 if not top 2.

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

He's averaged almost 2 PPG since the World Juniors and has carried his team by himself in the 2nd half. There may be reasons to dislike his game, but he definitely hasn't played the dissapearing act for more than 2 games at a time at any point this season.

I still have Couturier ahead of Strome and Huberdeau (although I see the skillset that people like with both these guys).

The guy I actually have flying up the rankings is Dougie Hamilton, this kid is absolutely unreal and reminds me of a Pietrangelo/E.Johnson mix with his 2way ability.

ISS Top 30 as of April 15th, 2011:

Source: http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=36721

1. RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS C 6'0 170 L Apr. 12/93 Red Deer WHL
2. ADAM LARSSON D 6'3 200 R Nov. 12/92 Skelleftea SweE
3. SEAN COUTURIER C 6'4 195 L Dec. 12/92 Drummondville QMJHL
4. GABRIEL LANDESKOG LW 6'0 207 L Nov. 23/92 Kitchener OHL
5. DOUGLAS HAMILTON D 6'4 193 R Jun. 17/93 Niagara OHL
6. RYAN MURPHY D 5'10 176 R Mar. 31/93 Kitchener OHL
7. RYAN STROME C 6'0 183 R Jul. 11/93 Niagara OHL
8. JONATHAN HUBERDEAU C 6'1 168 L Jun. 4/93 Saint John QMHL
9. MIKA ZIBANEJAD C 6'0 183 R Apr. 18/93 Djurgarden SJ18A
10. JOEL ARMIA RW 6'3 191 R May 31/93 Assat FinE
11. DUNCAN SIEMENS D 6'3 197 L Sept. 7/93 Saskatoon WHL
12. SVEN BARTSCHI LW 5'11 175 L Oct. 5/92 Portland WHL
13. NATHAN BEAULIEU D 6'1 185 L Dec. 5/92 Saint John QMJHL
14. MARK MCNEILL C 6'1 204 R Feb. 22/93 Prince Albert WHL
15. JAMIE OLEKSIAK D 6'7 244 L Dec. 21/92 Northeastern H.E.
16. NICKLAS JENSEN F 6'2 188 L Mar. 6/93 Oshawa OHL
17. TYLER BIGGS RW 6'2 210 R Apr. 30/93 USA Under-18 USHL
18. ALEXANDR KHOKHLACHEV F 5'10 188 L Sept. 9/93 Windsor OHL
19. BRANDON SAAD LW 6'1 208 L Oct. 27/92 Saginaw OHL
20. VICTOR RASK C 6'1 194 L Mar. 1/93 Leksands SweAI
21. DAVID MUSIL D 6'3 200 L Apr. 9/93 Vancouver WHL
22. DANIEL CATENACCI C 5'9 176 L Mar. 9/93 Sault Ste. Marie OHL
23. TY RATTIE LW 5'11 170 R Feb. 5/93 Portland WHL
24. DMITRI JASKIN RW 6'2 196 L Mar. 23/93 Slavia CzeJr
25. ROCCO GRIMALDI C 5'6 163 R Feb. 8/93 USA Under-18 USHL
26. OSCAR KLEFBOM D 6'3 196 L July 20/93 Farjestad SweE
27. MATTHEW PUEMPEL LW 6'0 198 L Jan. 24/93 Peterborough OHL
28. ZACK PHILLIPS C 6'1 181 R Oct 28/92 Saint John QMJHL
29. MARK SCHEIFELE C 6'1 177 R Mar. 15/93 Barrie OHL
30. JONAS BRODIN D 6'1 165 L Jul. 12/93 Farjestad SweE

stempniaksen wrote:

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

He's averaged almost 2 PPG since the World Juniors and has carried his team by himself in the 2nd half. There may be reasons to dislike his game, but he definitely hasn't played the dissapearing act for more than 2 games at a time at any point this season.

I still have Couturier ahead of Strome and Huberdeau (although I see the skillset that people like with both these guys).

The guy I actually have flying up the rankings is Dougie Hamilton, this kid is absolutely unreal and reminds me of a Pietrangelo/E.Johnson mix with his 2way ability.

He will be picked in the top 5 for sure I would think. Looking at a team like NJ, you would almost have to be brain dead for them not to pick a guy with that kind of size and potential. They need D in the worst way. The wild card in all this is Florida, no one has any idea what their plans are.

Dougie Hamilton now ranked #5 by the ISS.

If Larsson goes top 3 which I am sure he will I don't think NJ passes up on a D man... thing is they could also go with Murphy. A fast, speedy puck moved in NJ's system is key, they have struggled since Neidamayer left in that aspect, even more so since Martin left as well.

If there is one wild card team it's Florida, if there is one wild card player it's Murphy.

Bring on SKOGGY!

NEELY wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

He's averaged almost 2 PPG since the World Juniors and has carried his team by himself in the 2nd half. There may be reasons to dislike his game, but he definitely hasn't played the dissapearing act for more than 2 games at a time at any point this season.

I still have Couturier ahead of Strome and Huberdeau (although I see the skillset that people like with both these guys).

The guy I actually have flying up the rankings is Dougie Hamilton, this kid is absolutely unreal and reminds me of a Pietrangelo/E.Johnson mix with his 2way ability.

He will be picked in the top 5 for sure I would think. Looking at a team like NJ, you would almost have to be brain dead for them not to pick a guy with that kind of size and potential. They need D in the worst way. The wild card in all this is Florida, no one has any idea what their plans are.

Couturier and Landeskog are both prototypical Tallon picks and could make for some very interesting moves if RNH/Lando go top-two (does Florida really let Larsson fall past them, ect). Just for fun I'll throw out how I see the top-six picks playing out as of now.

1. Edmonton: Ryan Nugent-Hopins (Future star center, Oilers mgmt have compared his vision to Gretzky)
2. Colorado: Gabriel Landeskog (They traded their power forward away in Stewart, here is a quick replacement)
3. New Jersey (trade up): Adam Larsson (Makes too much sense if he's still around and the opportunity to trade up is there)
4. Florida (trade down): Sean Couturier (Tallon's MO has always been talent in a big package, Couturier fits the bill)
5. NY Islanders: Dougie Hamilton (People think they will go forward bu they have tons of quality up front, missing a future #1)
6. Ottawa Senators: Jonathan Huberseau/Ryan Strome (I don't know which way they lean, they have mostly the same skillset and upside)

Colordao passing up on Larsson would surprise me in all honesty. If they take Larsson I would think that number 3 pick would be totally up for grabs though if Murray wanted to make a move for it.

Edm - NRH
Col - Larsson
Flr trade with Ott - Landeskog
NJ - Murphy or Hamilton
NYI Murphy or Hamilton
Ott tradw with Flr - Courturier.

I could see it going like that as well.

NEELY wrote:Colordao passing up on Larsson would surprise me in all honesty. If they take Larsson I would think that number 3 pick would be totally up for grabs though if Murray wanted to make a move for it.

Edm - NRH
Col - Larsson
Flr trade with Ott - Landeskog
NJ - Murphy or Hamilton
NYI Murphy or Hamilton
Ott tradw with Flr - Courturier.

I could see it going like that as well.

Personally I definitely have Larsson in my top 2, but Colorado just traded away their 1st line powerforward in exchage for a future top-pairing DMan, so it seems like a situation where they would have held on to Stewart if they were looking at Larsson in my eyes.

But believe me, it's very tough for me to put Lando ahead of Larsson since I think Larsson is gonna be a much better player if he hits his top-end.

It's hilarious how things change on almost a week to week basis. If that happens I can see the Sens trading up with Florida to nab Landeskog. We might not even know until the very second of Florida's pick frankly.

SpezDispenser wrote:It's hilarious how things change on almost a week to week basis. If that happens I can see the Sens trading up with Florida to nab Landeskog. We might not even know until the very second of Florida's pick frankly.

Yeah, it will most likely come down to a deal made on the floor just before they pick...

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

He's the only reason Drummondville was even contending.

He was not a ghost for the entire Gatinieau series. He was still hitting a lot and scoring some goals, but he was definitely drained. Whoever gets him has a steal on their hands because he will be healthy going into next year and he will be able to train and prepare for the season properly, unlike this season due to his mono.

I personally think the Sens would have him 4th in terms of forwards, but who knows.

NEELY wrote:If Larsson goes top 3 which I am sure he will I don't think NJ passes up on a D man... thing is they could also go with Murphy. A fast, speedy puck moved in NJ's system is key, they have struggled since Neidamayer left in that aspect, even more so since Martin left as well.

If there is one wild card team it's Florida, if there is one wild card player it's Murphy.

Are you from New England by any chance?

Big Ev wrote:

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:Sean Couturier is the pick! Same initials as Sidney Crosby and the Stanley Cup...can't be a coincidence!

Murray was at the game last night. Too bad he didn't score!

He was a ghost the entire series and if he played like that since Feb/March no wonder he's slipping in the rankings.

He's the only reason Drummondville was even contending.

He was not a ghost for the entire Gatinieau series. He was still hitting a lot and scoring some goals, but he was definitely drained. Whoever gets him has a steal on their hands because he will be healthy going into next year and he will be able to train and prepare for the season properly, unlike this season due to his mono.

I personally think the Sens would have him 4th in terms of forwards, but who knows.

Our opinions are lining up more and more. I'm not sure if that's a cause for concern or not

The only thing that seems to be certain is RNH is the number 1 guy. That's why I think it is 100% possible that Murray moves up into the top 3.