2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch

You'll crap your pants if we have the third pick and RNH is available and this happens:

Gary Bettman: "We have a trade to announce! Ottawa trades the third overall pick..."

Big Ev wrote:You'll crap your pants if we have the third pick and RNH is available and this happens:

Gary Bettman: "We have a trade to announce! Ottawa trades the third overall pick..."

Chicago trades Jonathan Toews to Ottawa for ...

marakh wrote:There is no way Ottawa has LAndeskog ahead of LArsson.

Take it with a grain of salt, if you haven't already.

I think all she did was take the revised CSB rankings and applied them to the current order based on position in the standings.

That said, while I love RNH scoring ability and tenacious style of play he is only 167 lbs. 6'0 167 at 18 scares me, you can only put so much weight on when your that type of body. Landgeskog on the other hand is already big, but he doesn't have the offensive ability that RNH has.

Then again, a friend pointed out that RNH didn't score much in the 1st half and he really took off in the 2nd half. Is he streaky, just got lucky? He had 65 points last year which is not bad, but it's no where near where he is this year. Is it that he's suddenly got it, or he's playing with better players making him look better?

Landeskog on the other hand had 44 last year and with missing 10 games this year he's at 66. The thing that makes me sway towards him is the people in Kitchener seem to think he's all that and a bag of doritos...and I love doritos.



The guy everyone is starting to talk about is Strome, but he's another guy who did barely anything last year and the year before, but suddenly he's scoring like crazy.

marakh wrote:I'll pee in my pants when COL will take the stage, if that's the order.

That reminds me of the Cowen year with MPS still on the table. I was stunned.

RNH took off because he simply gets better everyday, like most superstars do. He also shoots more these days, probably finding his scoring touch that's all. It's like Crosby when he found out he could score 50+ goals. Has all the tools, just need to apply it.
RNH looks to have a nice frame, large enough shoulders I think he can get to 190 lb in 2 years. And he is still 17 for another month (alright, nitpicking) THen again, when you're elite size barely matters. Pat Kane dominates, Briere and Giroux are dominating in the playoffs and they are the smallest players on their team. I don't think these guys are even bigger than 180 lbs, though I wouldn't bet my life on it. Don't really care about size. I care about strength, and he doesn't lack some.
As for Strome, he added 20 lbs in the offseason and was pretty much a 16 year old rookie the year before so he improved a lot last summer, strength, skating, speed, shot...

I am not sold yet on Lando creating his own offense. He is playing with the leading scorer in the league as well as the most dynamic offensive defenseman in the OHL (aside from Ryan Ellis). Then you have RNH and Strome who are in a league of their own on their respective team and offense is basically built around them.

Like I said, I won't cry if we get Landeskog but a top 3 pick in a draft I better get a guy who I can build my offense around.
I think it's safe to say we need a center at least with one of the first 2 picks, do we want a potential elite N1 center, with a good big top 6 winger (NSH pick), or a potential N1 winger but may end up just a good top 6 winger, and another potential top 6 center?

22_4_ever wrote:Landeskog on the other hand had 44 last year and with missing 10 games this year he's at 66. The thing that makes me sway towards him is the people in Kitchener seem to think he's all that and a bag of doritos...and I love doritos.

22_4_ever wrote:The guy everyone is starting to talk about is Strome, but he's another guy who did barely anything last year and the year before, but suddenly he's scoring like crazy.

*cough Mark Stone *cough

marakh wrote:RNH took off because he simply gets better everyday, like most superstars do. He also shoots more these days, probably finding his scoring touch that's all. It's like Crosby when he found out he could score 50+ goals. Has all the tools, just need to apply it.
RNH looks to have a nice frame, large enough shoulders I think he can get to 190 lb in 2 years. And he is still 17 for another month (alright, nitpicking) THen again, when you're elite size barely matters. Pat Kane dominates, Briere and Giroux are dominating in the playoffs and they are the smallest players on their team. I don't think these guys are even bigger than 180 lbs, though I wouldn't bet my life on it. Don't really care about size. I care about strength, and he doesn't lack some.
As for Strome, he added 20 lbs in the offseason and was pretty much a 16 year old rookie the year before so he improved a lot last summer, strength, skating, speed, shot...

I am not sold yet on Lando creating his own offense. He is playing with the leading scorer in the league as well as the most dynamic offensive defenseman in the OHL (aside from Ryan Ellis). Then you have RNH and Strome who are in a league of their own on their respective team and offense is basically built around them.

Like I said, I won't cry if we get Landeskog but a top 3 pick in a draft I better get a guy who I can build my offense around.
I think it's safe to say we need a center at least with one of the first 2 picks, do we want a potential elite N1 center, with a good big top 6 winger (NSH pick), or a potential N1 winger but may end up just a good top 6 winger, and another potential top 6 center?

I think that's pretty damn well said.

22_4_ever wrote:

marakh wrote:There is no way Ottawa has LAndeskog ahead of LArsson.

Take it with a grain of salt, if you haven't already.

I think all she did was take the revised CSB rankings and applied them to the current order based on position in the standings.

These aren't SensGirl's rankings, they are from mynhldraft.com

Updated Mar. 23rd


1
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Ht/Wt:6.00/170 lbs
Position:C
Team: Red Deer (WHL)



2
Gabriel Landeskog
Ht/Wt:6.00/207 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Kitchener (OHL)



3
Adam Larsson
Ht/Wt:6.02/200 lbs
Position:D
Team: Skelleftea AIK (Swe)



4
Sean Couturier
Ht/Wt:6.04/195 lbs
Position:C
Team: Drummondville (QMJHL)



5
Ryan Strome
Ht/Wt:5.11/160 lbs
Position:C
Team: Niagara (OHL)



6
Ryan Murphy
Ht/Wt:5.10/160 lbs
Position:D
Team: Kitchener (OHL)



7
Jonathan Huberdeau
Ht/Wt:6.01/170 lbs
Position:C
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)



8
Tyler Biggs
Ht/Wt:6.02/202 lbs
Position:RW
Team: US NTDP



9*
Dougie Hamilton
Ht/Wt:6.03/180 lbs
Position:D
Team: Niagara (OHL)



10
Nathan Beaulieu
Ht/Wt:6.00/165 lbs
Position:D
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)




11
Brandon Saad
Ht/Wt:6.02/200 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Saginaw (OHL)



12
Duncan Siemens
Ht/Wt:6.03/192 lbs
Position:D
Team: Saskatoon (WHL)



13
Joel Armia
Ht/Wt:6.02/183 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Ässät (FIN)



14
Mika Zibanejad
Ht/Wt:6.01/183 lbs
Position:C
Team: Djurgårdens IF (SWE)



15
Sven Bartschi
Ht/Wt:5.10/185 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Portland (WHL)



16
Jamieson Oleksiak
Ht/Wt:6.07/220 lbs
Position:D
Team: Northeastern ( H-EAST )



17
Mark McNeill
Ht/Wt:6.02/210 lbs
Position:C
Team: Prince Albert (WHL)



18
Ty Rattie
Ht/Wt:6.00/167 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Portland (WHL)



19
David Musil
Ht/Wt:6.03/191 lbs
Position:D
Team: Vancouver (WHL)



20*
Mark Scheifele
Ht/Wt:6.02/177 lbs
Position:C
Team: Barrie (OHL)




21*
Jonas Brodin
Ht/Wt:6.01/165 lbs
Position:D
Team: Färjestad (SWE)



22
Boone Jenner
Ht/Wt:6.01/193 lbs
Position:C
Team: Oshawa (OHL)



23*
Matt Puempel
Ht/Wt:6.00/190 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Peterborough (OHL)



24
Rocco Grimaldi
Ht/Wt:5.06/157 lbs
Position:F
Team: USA U-18 ( USHL )



25
Nicklas Jensen
Ht/Wt:6.02/187 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Oshawa (OHL)



26
Scott Mayfield
Ht/Wt:6.04/175 lbs
Position:D
Team: Youngstown (USHL)



27
Joseph Morrow
Ht/Wt:6.00/197 lbs
Position:D
Team: Portland (WHL)



28
Rickard Rakell
Ht/Wt:6.01/190 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Plymouth (OHL)



29*
Tomas Jurco
Ht/Wt:6.00/175 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)



30
Vladislav Namestnikov
Ht/Wt:6.00/163 lbs
Position:RW
Team: London (OHL)

So RNH is officially rated 1st overall at the moment. Will he keep it up until Draft day?

Crazy how things change in a few months, Larsson has fallen to 3rd. Couturier has been bouncing around from 4th to 6th.

This is cool to see, from December 2010 - ISS Rankings;

RankPlayerPosHt.Wt.S/CDoBTeamLeague

1.	SEAN COUTURIER	C	6'4	195	L	Dec 7/92	Drummondville	QMJHL
2.	RYAN-NUGENT HOPKINS	C	6'0	170	L	Apr 12/93	Red Deer	WHL
3.	ADAM LARSSON	D	6'3	209	R	Nov 12/92	Skelleftea	SweE
4.	GABRIEL LANDESKOG	LW	6'0	205	L	Nov 23/92	Kitchener	OHL
5.	BRANDON SAAD	LW	6'1	208	L	Oct 27/92	U-18	USHL
6.	RYAN MURPHY	D	5'10	168	R	Mar 31/93	Kitchener	OHL
7.	JOEL ARMIA	RW	6'3	191	R	May 31/93	Assat	FinMi
8.	DUNCAN SIEMENS	D	6'3	197	L	Sep 7/93	Saskatoon	WHL
9.	RYAN STROME	C	6'0	183	R	July 11/93	Niagara	OHL
10.	VICTOR RASK	C	6'1	194	L	Mar 1/93	Leksands	SJ18A

List updated March 4, 2011
Each month going into the 2011 NHL Entry Draft, former NHL executive and scout Craig Button provides his list of the top draft-eligible prospects.
Craig's Top 30 for 2011 NHL Draft

1.	RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS	C	6'0	170	L	Apr. 12/93	Red Deer	WHL
2.	GABRIEL LANDESKOG	LW	6'0	207	L	Nov. 23/92	Kitchener	OHL
3.	ADAM LARSSON	D	6'3	200	R	Nov. 12/92	Skelleftea	SweE
4.	JONATHAN HUBERDEAU	C	6'1	168	L	June 4/93	Saint John	QMJHL
5.	RYAN MURPHY	D	5'10	176	R	Mar. 31/93	Kitchener	OHL
6.	SEAN COUTURIER	C	6'4	195	L	Dec. 12/92	Drummondville	QMJHL
7.	RYAN STROME	C	6'0	183	R	July 11/93	Niagara	OHL
8.	MATTHEW PEUMPEL	LW	6'0	198	L	Jan. 24/93	Peterborough	OHL
9.	SVEN BAERTSCHI	LW	5'11	175	L	Oct. 5/92	Portland	WHL
10	NATHAN BEAULIEU	D	6'1	176	L	Dec. 5/92	Saint John	QMJHL
11.	JOEL ARMIA	RW	6'3	191	R	May 31/93	Assat	FinE
12.	DOUGLAS HAMILTON	D	6'4	193	R	Jun. 17/93	Niagara	OHL
13.	MIKA ZIBANEJAD	C	6'0	183	R	Apr. 18/93	Djurgarden	SJ18A
14.	TYLER BIGGS	RW	6'2	210	R	Apr. 30/93	USA Under-18	USHL
15.	ZACK PHILLIPS	C	6'1	181	R	Oct. 28/92	Saint John	QMJHL
16.	BRANDON SAAD	LW	6'1	208	L	Oct. 27/92	Saginaw	OHL
17.	PHILLIP DANAULT	LW	6'0	178	L	Feb. 24/93	Victoriaville	QMJHL
18.	JONAS BRODIN	D	6'1	165	L	July 12/93	Farjestad	Sweden
19.	JAMIESON OLEKSIAK	D	6'7	244	L	Dec. 21/92	Northeastern	H.E,
20.	TY RATTIE	LW	5'11	170	R	Feb. 5/93	Portland	WHL
21.	BOONE JENNER	C	6'1	194	L	June 15/93	Oshawa	OHL
22.	RICKARD RAKELL	RW	6'0	191	R	May 5/93	Plymouth	OHL
23.	DUNCAN SIEMENS	D	6'3	197	L	Sept. 7/93	Saskatoon	WHL
24.	NICKLAS JENSEN	F	6'2	188	L	Mar. 6/93	Oshawa	OHL
25.	VLADISLAV NAMESTNIKOV	F	5'11	170	L	Nov. 22/92	Voskresensk	RusS
26.	MARK MCNEILL	C	6'1	204	R	Feb. 22/93	Prince Albert	WHL
27.	JOSEPH MORROW	D	6'0	196	L	Dec. 9/92	Portland	WHL
28.	TOMAS JURCO	RW	6'2	193	L	Dec. 28/92	Saint John	QMJHL
29.	DAVID MUSIL	D	6'3	200	L	Apr. 9/93	Vancouver	WHL
30.	LUCAS LESSIO	LW	6'1	196	L	Jan. 23/93	Oshawa	OHL

Man, kids these days are getting bigger and bigger. Average over 6foot for these players.

Wow, look at Huberdeau rise! And Couturier fall, but Strome remains at 7. Very interesting.

SpezDispenser wrote:Wow, look at Huberdeau rise! And Couturier fall, but Strome remains at 7. Very interesting.

This is Craig Button's list. He tends to stray from the consensus picks. I always find his picks interesting for that reason.

Hopefully Red Deer gets smacked in the 1st round

Current ISS top 10:

1. Adam Larsson, D
2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, C
3. Gabriel Landeskog, RW
4. Sean Couturier, C
5. Ryan Strome, C
6. Ryan Murphy, D
7. Duncan Siemens, D
8. Doug Hamilton, D
9. Brandon Saad, LW
10. Nicklas Jensen, RW

Feb. 2011 ISS Top 30 Rankings:

1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan, F 4/12/93 L 6.00.5 170 Red Deer WHL
2. Larsson, Adam, RD 11/12/92 R 6.03 209 Skelleftea SweE
3. Landeskog, Gabriel, LW 11/23/92 L 6.00.25 205 Kitchener OHL
4. Couturier, Sean, C 12/7/92 L 6.04 195 Drummondville QMJHL
5. Murphy, Ryan, RD 3/31/93 R 5.10.25 168 Kitchener OHL
6. Biggs, Tyler, RW 4/30/93 R 6.02 210 USA Under-18 USHL
7. Strome, Ryan, C 7/11/93 R 6.00.25 183 Niagara OHL
8. Siemens, Duncan, LD 9/7/93 L 6.03 197 Saskatoon WHL
9. Hamilton, Douglas, RD 6/17/93 R 6.04 190 Niagara OHL
10. Jensen, Nicklas, F 3/6/93 L 6.02.25 188 Oshawa OHL
11. Saad, Brandon, LW 10/27/92 L 6.01.25 208 Saginaw OHL
12. Armia, Joel, RW 5/31/93 R 6.03 191 Assat FinE
13. Huberdeau, Jonathan C/L 6/4/93 L 6'1.25 168 Saint John QMJHL
14. Khokhlachev, Alexandr F 9/9/93 L 5.10 188 Windsor OHL
15. Musil, David, LD 4/9/93 L 6.03.5 200 Vancouver WHL
16. Grimaldi, Rocco, C 2/8/93 R 5.06 163 USA Under-18 USHL
17. Catenacci, Daniel, C 3/9/93 L 5.09.25 180 S.S. Marie OHL
18. Bell, Myles, RD 8/19/93 R 6.00 209 Regina WHL
19. Jaskin, Dmitri, RW 3/23/93 L 6.01 196 Slavia CzeJr
20. McNeill, Mark, C 2/22/93 R 6.01 204 Prince Albert WHL
21. Rattie, Ty, LW 2/5/93 R 5.11 170 Portland WHL
22. Jacobs, Colin, F 1/20/93 R 6.01 205 Seattle WHL
23. Mayfield, Scott, RD 10/14/92 R 6.03.5 197 Youngstown USHL
24. Rask, Victor, C 3/1/93 L 6.01.5 194 Leksands SweAl
25. Oleksiak, Jamie (Fr.) *, LD 12/21/92 L 6.07 244 Northeastern H.E.
26. Bartschi, Sven, LW 10/5/92 L 5.10.5 175 Portland WHL
27. Zibanejad, Mika, C 4/18/93 R 6.01.5 191 Djurgarden SweJE
28. Puempel, Matthew, LW 1/24/93 L 6.00 198 Peterborough OHL
29. Shore, Nick (Fr.) *, RW 9/26/92 R 5.11.75 195 Denver WCHA
30. Jurco, Tomas, RW 12/28/92 L 6.02 193 Saint John QMJHL

shabbs wrote:Feb. 2011 ISS Top 30 Rankings:

1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan, F 4/12/93 L 6.00.5 170 Red Deer WHL
2. Larsson, Adam, RD 11/12/92 R 6.03 209 Skelleftea SweE
3. Landeskog, Gabriel, LW 11/23/92 L 6.00.25 205 Kitchener OHL
4. Couturier, Sean, C 12/7/92 L 6.04 195 Drummondville QMJHL
5. Murphy, Ryan, RD 3/31/93 R 5.10.25 168 Kitchener OHL
6. Biggs, Tyler, RW 4/30/93 R 6.02 210 USA Under-18 USHL
7. Strome, Ryan, C 7/11/93 R 6.00.25 183 Niagara OHL
8. Siemens, Duncan, LD 9/7/93 L 6.03 197 Saskatoon WHL
9. Hamilton, Douglas, RD 6/17/93 R 6.04 190 Niagara OHL
10. Jensen, Nicklas, F 3/6/93 L 6.02.25 188 Oshawa OHL
11. Saad, Brandon, LW 10/27/92 L 6.01.25 208 Saginaw OHL
12. Armia, Joel, RW 5/31/93 R 6.03 191 Assat FinE
13. Huberdeau, Jonathan C/L 6/4/93 L 6'1.25 168 Saint John QMJHL
14. Khokhlachev, Alexandr F 9/9/93 L 5.10 188 Windsor OHL
15. Musil, David, LD 4/9/93 L 6.03.5 200 Vancouver WHL
16. Grimaldi, Rocco, C 2/8/93 R 5.06 163 USA Under-18 USHL
17. Catenacci, Daniel, C 3/9/93 L 5.09.25 180 S.S. Marie OHL
18. Bell, Myles, RD 8/19/93 R 6.00 209 Regina WHL
19. Jaskin, Dmitri, RW 3/23/93 L 6.01 196 Slavia CzeJr
20. McNeill, Mark, C 2/22/93 R 6.01 204 Prince Albert WHL
21. Rattie, Ty, LW 2/5/93 R 5.11 170 Portland WHL
22. Jacobs, Colin, F 1/20/93 R 6.01 205 Seattle WHL
23. Mayfield, Scott, RD 10/14/92 R 6.03.5 197 Youngstown USHL
24. Rask, Victor, C 3/1/93 L 6.01.5 194 Leksands SweAl
25. Oleksiak, Jamie (Fr.) *, LD 12/21/92 L 6.07 244 Northeastern H.E.
26. Bartschi, Sven, LW 10/5/92 L 5.10.5 175 Portland WHL
27. Zibanejad, Mika, C 4/18/93 R 6.01.5 191 Djurgarden SweJE
28. Puempel, Matthew, LW 1/24/93 L 6.00 198 Peterborough OHL
29. Shore, Nick (Fr.) *, RW 9/26/92 R 5.11.75 195 Denver WCHA
30. Jurco, Tomas, RW 12/28/92 L 6.02 193 Saint John QMJHL

That's the kid I want The Sens to draft with Nashville's pick if it is 18 or lower.