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1212011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:18 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
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SpezDispenser wrote:Again, gotta weigh the options really closely. Do we need Mike Richards or Pat Kane?

I personally think it's pretty obvious. You either get a top line of Landeskog - Spezza - Michalek next season, or the status quo. NPH will not step in next season and will be behind Spezza, and possibly Fisher when he finally does step in. Unless he gets converted to wing.


Doesn't matter, if the Sens want RNH as the 2nd line center, then Fisher will be there next year, dealt the summer after next and that's that ! Lalalala

I wouldn't bet on it Spez. We still might end up with a good player in 3 or 4 years but I personally like the addition of an immediate impact player.

Exactly. Get me someone who can step onto the roster right away and give the vets a kick in the Donkey while he takes away their ice time.

1222011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:46 am

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asq2 wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:I just think that you're stuck then trying to find big wingers for RNH and you already need better wingers for Spezza. Just digging a hole so to speak. That's just the way I see it. Mostly going with my gut on this too.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I wouldn't bet on it Spez. We still might end up with a good player in 3 or 4 years but I personally like the addition of an immediate impact player.

RNH needs wingers but probably less than Landeskog needs a centre. RNH has more potential to be the focal point of the offensive line he plays on whereas Landeskog is unbelievably well-rounded but has questions about his ultimate offensive upside. I also believe that the way to go is to build down the middle.

By adding RNH you're taking away from this team's dependence on Spezza and his injury concerns. It's also a move for the long-term for this franchise - I mean, let's face it, the majority of the players we've begun pinning our hopes on are guys like Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen, Lehner etc. none of whom is over 20, so with the exception of EK I don't think we can expect them to carry this team in the immediate future. I think getting an asset for when these guys are ready to contend is probably better. And we'll have plenty of time, picks, and potentially cap-space to add ancillary offensive pieces, with the core guy (potentially) already in place.

I get the argument on the other hand that Landeskog is a more rare prospect than a RNH is - generally you can find players similar to Nugent-Hopkins in a draft, but infrequently do you see a guy like Landeskog - but considering our forward situation I think RNH is a piece the team needs more. As far as the "immediate impact player" idea is concerned, I'm curious: when was the last time an 18-year-old played on the Sens? And I'm not sure he's likely to be a big-time impact player at that age.

Lastly, this is potentially the highest we'll have picked in a decade (since Spezza in '01) and could be monumental in deciding the direction of the franchise. With that in mind, I think we'd all regret ending up with the lesser player long-term because we wanted a guy who could step in right away even though we had at best a feeble chance at competing at the time. Now, if you feel Landeskog is the best asset long-term, you go for it and the relative NHL-readiness is just the icing on the cake. But if you think RNH will be the better player 4 years or so from now, you've gotta go with him even if he takes one or two years longer to crack the roster.

Obviously, though, I'd be thrilled to get either and I'm not holding my breath that we will. NJ still sucks, NYI is decimated by injuries and has already begun selling away assets (like Wisniewski), Toronto and Calgary just got owned by the Rangers and Wild, respectively, and Edmonton is just terrible. We've lost a lot of games too but at least recently we've started looking good while doing it.


i agree that NJ will probably stay where they are but i can se them picking up larsson as they are in need of some D. next we're likely to see Edmonton and NYI both those teams need could use RNH but i have a feeling that both would go for that NHL ready player since both are trying to make an impact now(Landeskog). now my hope is some defensemen shoots up in the rankings since both those teams could really use some need in the back. that could leave RNH to be picked 4rth. i think with the burke mentality of improve now, he might be a buyer of some sort in the playoffs while we will in all hopes be sellers. they will likely finish ahead of us + burke doesn't want the bruins getting anymore top 5 picks. now florida, buffalo and calgary could all fall past us. but i think it will depend on the state of teams past the deadline and injuries. i don't see buffalo buying or selling, florida will likely try and sell but might be trading closer to the draft since alot of the players they want to move have multi-years left. calgary might be our threat. for 4rth IMO. basicaly i think we finish in the top 5 but most likely in 4rth. so there's a chance we land RNH


BTW i totally agree we need more of a RNH then a landeskog.

1232011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:43 am

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Really, there's only one way to settle this Nugent-Hopkins/Landeskog debate once and for all....


Draft both players.

1242011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:48 am

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Dash wrote:Really, there's only one way to settle this Nugent-Hopkins/Landeskog debate once and for all....


Draft both players.

Cheers

1252011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:17 am

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Dash wrote:Really, there's only one way to settle this Nugent-Hopkins/Landeskog debate once and for all....


Draft both players.
And how shall we do that? What could edmonton possibly want that we could give them on draft day...


Forget about it we need jason.

1262011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:35 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:i agree that NJ will probably stay where they are but i can se them picking up larsson as they are in need of some D. next we're likely to see Edmonton and NYI both those teams need could use RNH but i have a feeling that both would go for that NHL ready player since both are trying to make an impact now(Landeskog). now my hope is some defensemen shoots up in the rankings since both those teams could really use some need in the back. that could leave RNH to be picked 4rth. i think with the burke mentality of improve now, he might be a buyer of some sort in the playoffs while we will in all hopes be sellers. they will likely finish ahead of us + burke doesn't want the bruins getting anymore top 5 picks. now florida, buffalo and calgary could all fall past us. but i think it will depend on the state of teams past the deadline and injuries. i don't see buffalo buying or selling, florida will likely try and sell but might be trading closer to the draft since alot of the players they want to move have multi-years left. calgary might be our threat. for 4rth IMO. basicaly i think we finish in the top 5 but most likely in 4rth. so there's a chance we land RNH


BTW i totally agree we need more of a RNH then a landeskog.

As things currently stand, I see:

NJ Larsson
Edmonton RNH
NYI Landeskog
Ottawa Couturier
Boston Murphy/Hamilton

That could change slightly if NJ gets passed by Edmonton, who've lost both Whitney and Hemsky long-term, because maybe the Devils would take Couturier over RNH, but I dunno.

Plus I think teams like Toronto, Buffalo, Florida and Columbus could all pass us in the draft order.

1272011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 12:42 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Exactly. Get me someone who can step onto the roster right away and give the vets a kick in the Donkey while he takes away their ice time.

Gah, why?

Alfie, Gonchar, Kuba and Kovalev are near the end of their careers, Phillips could turn it around but perhaps he's regressed, Spezza is injury-prone, we still haven't solved the goalie situation in the short-term, etc. We're pinning hopes on Karlsson, Lehner, Rundblad, Cowen, Wiercioch etc. none of whom is over 20.

Barring some unbelievable FA signings, we've very little chance of being seriously competitive in the short-term, and unless the 18-year-old you've added to the roster is Crosby or Kane, he's unlikely to be a particularly major influence on the team.

Pick for who will be the best guy in the medium-to-long-run, and if it turns out he can step in immediately, then great. DO NOT pass up on the better long-term prospect out of the desire to make your team slightly less feeble the next season.

1282011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:24 pm

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I wouldn't be completely against Sean Couturier the more I see him. I'm still on team RNH though.

1292011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:57 pm

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stempniaksen wrote:I wouldn't be completely against Sean Couturier the more I see him. I'm still on team RNH though.

Any one of the top-4 would be a big step forward for this franchise IMO. But we're going to have to stay worse than the Leafs, BJs, Panthers, etc.

1302011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:13 pm

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asq2 wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:I wouldn't be completely against Sean Couturier the more I see him. I'm still on team RNH though.

Any one of the top-4 would be a big step forward for this franchise IMO. But we're going to have to stay worse than the Leafs, BJs, Panthers, etc.

I don't we will be which is the scary part.
I really like the idea of building up the middle though and the though of RNH/Spezza or Spezza/Couturier is certainly intruging.

I don't feel like Jensen or Saad makes the same impact (duh).

1312011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:15 pm

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If we're outside of a Top 5 pick, do we look to Strome if none of the popular kids are available?

1322011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 3:30 pm

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shabbs wrote:If we're outside of a Top 5 pick, do we look to Strome if none of the popular kids are available?

He's a personal favourite of mine beyond the top-four, but there are a ton of candidates after the main guys.

I'm gonna keep mentioning Puempel if we start sliding because he's exactly what Spezza needs on the wing.

1332011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:16 pm

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stempniaksen wrote:
shabbs wrote:If we're outside of a Top 5 pick, do we look to Strome if none of the popular kids are available?

He's a personal favourite of mine beyond the top-four, but there are a ton of candidates after the main guys.

I'm gonna keep mentioning Puempel if we start sliding because he's exactly what Spezza needs on the wing.

I just drafted him on NHL 10 last night! 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 270956

1342011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:23 pm

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shabbs wrote:If we're outside of a Top 5 pick, do we look to Strome if none of the popular kids are available?

Strome or Huberdeau would be nice (though not as nice). Alternatively, you could try to replicate what we did last year: take a guy like Murphy or Dougie Hamilton or trade the pick when it's in a position to draft one of those guys to a team with an imbalance between forwards and defencemen.

For example, try to trade it straight-up for Glennie out of Dallas or in a package for Neal.

1352011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:33 pm

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asq2 wrote:
shabbs wrote:If we're outside of a Top 5 pick, do we look to Strome if none of the popular kids are available?

Strome or Huberdeau would be nice (though not as nice). Alternatively, you could try to replicate what we did last year: take a guy like Murphy or Dougie Hamilton or trade the pick when it's in a position to draft one of those guys to a team with an imbalance between forwards and defencemen.

For example, try to trade it straight-up for Glennie out of Dallas or in a package for Neal.

Me likey. Nod

1362011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:59 pm

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Glennie? I'd rather take Huberdeau if he's available. Kid has some serious skill and is very consistent, pretty physical player and most importantly, one of the youngest players in the draft which means he's probably goign to get better by June.

1372011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:58 am

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Updated Jan. 14th

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Sean Couturier
Ht/Wt:6.04/185 lbs
Position:C
Team: Drummondville (QMJHL)


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Gabriel Landeskog
Ht/Wt:6.00/201 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Kitchener (OHL)


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Adam Larsson
Ht/Wt:6.02/200 lbs
Position:D
Team: Skelleftea AIK (Swe)


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Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Ht/Wt:6.00/160 lbs
Position:C
Team: Red Deer (WHL)


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Jonathan Huberdeau
Ht/Wt:6.01/155 lbs
Position:C
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)


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Joel Armia
Ht/Wt:6.02/183 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Ässät (FIN)


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Ryan Murphy
Ht/Wt:5.10/160 lbs
Position:D
Team: Kitchener (OHL)


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Ryan Strome
Ht/Wt:5.11/160 lbs
Position:C
Team: Niagara (OHL)


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Brandon Saad
Ht/Wt:6.02/200 lbs
Position:W
Team: Saginaw (OHL)


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Sven Bartschi
Ht/Wt:5.10/185 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Portland (WHL)



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Dougie Hamilton
Ht/Wt:6.03/180 lbs
Position:D
Team: Niagara (OHL)


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Ty Rattie
Ht/Wt:6.00/167 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Portland (WHL)


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Nathan Beaulieu
Ht/Wt:6.00/165 lbs
Position:D
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)


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Alexander Khokhlachev
Ht/Wt:5.11/176 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Windsor (OHL)


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Zack Phillips
Ht/Wt:6.00/180 lbs
Position:C
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)


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Duncan Siemens
Ht/Wt:6.03/192 lbs
Position:D
Team: Saskatoon (WHL)


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Tyler Biggs
Ht/Wt:6.02/202 lbs
Position:RW
Team: US NTDP


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Seth Ambroz
Ht/Wt:6.03/198 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Omaha (USHL)


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Vladislav Namestnikov
Ht/Wt:6.00/163 lbs
Position:RW
Team: London (OHL)


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David Musil
Ht/Wt:6.03/191 lbs
Position:D
Team: Vancouver (WHL)



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Matt Puempel
Ht/Wt:6.00/190 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Peterborough (OHL)


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Victor Rask
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Position:C
Team: Leksands (Swe)


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Tomas Jurco
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Position:RW
Team: Saint John (QMJHL)


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Scott Mayfield
Ht/Wt:6.04/175 lbs
Position:D
Team: Youngstown (USHL)


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Daniel Catenacci
Ht/Wt:5.10/180 lbs
Position:C
Team: Sault Ste. Marie (OHL)


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Shane Prince
Ht/Wt:5.10/180 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Ottawa (OHL)


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Myles Bell
Ht/Wt:6.00/202 lbs
Position:D
Team: Regina (WHL)


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Maxim Shalunov
Ht/Wt:6.03/185 lbs
Position:F
Team: Chelyabinsk (RUS)


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Rickard Rakell
Ht/Wt:6.01/185 lbs
Position:RW
Team: Plymouth (OHL)


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Jonathan Miller
Ht/Wt:6.01/198 lbs
Position:C
Team: US U-18

1382011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 Empty Re: 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:59 am

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How is Couturier still 1st here after the prospects game?

Good news is RNH is in our spot now!! 2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch - Page 9 649241

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