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LeKid wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Da Costa has looked amazing.

He and Hoffman are the only 2 players on the team that I think have poise. Everyone else is afraid of the puck

They are 4-3-1 and tied for 5th in the Conference. I think you are missing a third player with poise.

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Da Costa has looked amazing.

He and Hoffman are the only 2 players on the team that I think have poise. Everyone else is afraid of the puck

They are 4-3-1 and tied for 5th in the Conference. I think you are missing a third player with poise.

If you're talking about Lehner, he's not there yet.

sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

A lot of guys have to step up offensively. That's your problem right there. For the second year in a row, Hoffman would lead the team in scoring with ~50 points. That's clearly not gonna cut it. That said, there's a transition to the AHL, so I guess we shouldn't be too surprised. They'll mesh by around game 20 and go on to make the playoffs IMO.

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Couldn't care less if they win or not. Playing experience is what matters most. Without multiple vets, they won't be a serious contender.

LeKid wrote:

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Da Costa has looked amazing.

He and Hoffman are the only 2 players on the team that I think have poise. Everyone else is afraid of the puck

They are 4-3-1 and tied for 5th in the Conference. I think you are missing a third player with poise.

If you're talking about Lehner, he's not there yet.

I'm shaking my head in disbelief reading that comment. Sure, he had an off year last season because he was probably a bit upset about not getting the big salary that a bunch of his buddies did with their one-ways. But to say that DaCosta and Hoffman are there and Lehner isn't is baffling to me. This team simply doesn't win without him in goal.

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

Thanks for that..

I heard Tim Murray or was it Pierre Dorion during an interview earlier this season. They said some AHL teams focus on the development and playing time of their young players... while other teams just focus on winning. I wonder what NHL teams would benefit most from. For me it would be the development... Winning (ie Championships) is nice but that means veteran AHL teams for the most part.

A winning culture is good for young players.. but development is better. Let the young guys play...

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Da Costa has looked amazing.

He and Hoffman are the only 2 players on the team that I think have poise. Everyone else is afraid of the puck

They are 4-3-1 and tied for 5th in the Conference. I think you are missing a third player with poise.

If you're talking about Lehner, he's not there yet.

I'm shaking my head in disbelief reading that comment. Sure, he had an off year last season because he was probably a bit upset about not getting the big salary that a bunch of his buddies did with their one-ways. But to say that DaCosta and Hoffman are there and Lehner isn't is baffling to me. This team simply doesn't win without him in goal.

We're still talking about poise here right?

"Our" future is AWESOME:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjWql6VJdM&feature=g-vre

sandysensfan wrote:

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

Thanks for that..

I heard Tim Murray or was it Pierre Dorion during an interview earlier this season. They said some AHL teams focus on the development and playing time of their young players... while other teams just focus on winning. I wonder what NHL teams would benefit most from. For me it would be the development... Winning (ie Championships) is nice but that means veteran AHL teams for the most part.

A winning culture is good for young players.. but development is better. Let the young guys play...

I'm not saying the contrary but I must admit that with a guy like silf that was touted by the organization as being NHL ready 2 years ago my expectations of him were a bit higher. on the other hand I expected a learning curve from Zib and stone. Stone was such a big boy in the juniors but now the competition is more on par with his size. still like it's been said. let's have another 10 games or so for them to mesh together. it is great to see Hoffman do so well. he could very well end up as a 3rd liner that can help with secondary scoring.

sandysensfan wrote:

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

Thanks for that..

I heard Tim Murray or was it Pierre Dorion during an interview earlier this season. They said some AHL teams focus on the development and playing time of their young players... while other teams just focus on winning. I wonder what NHL teams would benefit most from. For me it would be the development... Winning (ie Championships) is nice but that means veteran AHL teams for the most part.

A winning culture is good for young players.. but development is better. Let the young guys play...

You could have both. If you've got a lot of talent on the backend at the NHL level, you can bring in veteran D while developing your forward prospects. You can have a mixture in both groups, as well.

Plus does a "beteran" necessarily have to be a fringe NHL player in the last years of his career, hoping for a call up or two? You could argue that Jessiman (8th year pro), Bishop (6th year pro), Eckford (5th year pro) are veterans alongside Benoit. And a few more are in their 3rd/4th year pro.

LeKid wrote:

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

wprager wrote:

LeKid wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Da Costa has looked amazing.

He and Hoffman are the only 2 players on the team that I think have poise. Everyone else is afraid of the puck

They are 4-3-1 and tied for 5th in the Conference. I think you are missing a third player with poise.

If you're talking about Lehner, he's not there yet.

I'm shaking my head in disbelief reading that comment. Sure, he had an off year last season because he was probably a bit upset about not getting the big salary that a bunch of his buddies did with their one-ways. But to say that DaCosta and Hoffman are there and Lehner isn't is baffling to me. This team simply doesn't win without him in goal.

We're still talking about poise here right?

1st year in the league he faced a penalty shot in OT in an elimination game. Dragged his team (who were practically playing 4D plus a 5th being a rookie who got 5 minutes of ice time) out of a 1-3 hole and won the series, then three more. He's got more than just swagger.

Why would I care f Lehner has poise with the puck?

Flo The Action wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

Thanks for that..

I heard Tim Murray or was it Pierre Dorion during an interview earlier this season. They said some AHL teams focus on the development and playing time of their young players... while other teams just focus on winning. I wonder what NHL teams would benefit most from. For me it would be the development... Winning (ie Championships) is nice but that means veteran AHL teams for the most part.

A winning culture is good for young players.. but development is better. Let the young guys play...

I'm not saying the contrary but I must admit that with a guy like silf that was touted by the organization as being NHL ready 2 years ago my expectations of him were a bit higher. on the other hand I expected a learning curve from Zib and stone. Stone was such a big boy in the juniors but now the competition is more on par with his size. still like it's been said. let's have another 10 games or so for them to mesh together. it is great to see Hoffman do so well. he could very well end up as a 3rd liner that can help with secondary scoring.

The team never hypes their players as big time scorers
That's just what fans assume and then they expect them to put up big point totals. Silf for example will most likely never put up more than 50 points in an average year. Being NHL ready doesn't mean you're going to dominate the AHL offensively

Big Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

wprager wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:sens lose tonight. maybe it's early but i for one, was expecting a slightly more impressive start to this team. granted I haven't been able to watch them yet online.

They are one of the youngest teams in the AHL. They will need time to get used to each other.. several new players... and a new coach and a new system. Injuries to Cowen, Gryba & Stone haven't helped either... Bishop was in net tonight... backup was Lawson (who I thought was in Elmira). Just hoping Lehner got the night off and praying it's not something else.

Lehner had a touch of the flu.

Thanks for that..

I heard Tim Murray or was it Pierre Dorion during an interview earlier this season. They said some AHL teams focus on the development and playing time of their young players... while other teams just focus on winning. I wonder what NHL teams would benefit most from. For me it would be the development... Winning (ie Championships) is nice but that means veteran AHL teams for the most part.

A winning culture is good for young players.. but development is better. Let the young guys play...

I'm not saying the contrary but I must admit that with a guy like silf that was touted by the organization as being NHL ready 2 years ago my expectations of him were a bit higher. on the other hand I expected a learning curve from Zib and stone. Stone was such a big boy in the juniors but now the competition is more on par with his size. still like it's been said. let's have another 10 games or so for them to mesh together. it is great to see Hoffman do so well. he could very well end up as a 3rd liner that can help with secondary scoring.

The team never hypes their players as big time scorers
That's just what fans assume and then they expect them to put up big point totals. Silf for example will most likely never put up more than 50 points in an average year. Being NHL ready doesn't mean you're going to dominate the AHL offensively

Stone is used to playing on a smaller ice surface so he is further ahead. Mika & Silfverberg are used to the large European ice... They are going from that large ice surface to the smallest ice surface in the AHL (as told to us by B-Sens fans). The game will be faster, less time to make decisions and less space to move. Both will take more than 9 games to adjust to that... I think Silfverberg may do better on NHL ice as compared to that in the AHL... He needs to adjust to reading plays faster and learning to get by with less space to move and less time to react.

It's all about getting better every day.



That much better.