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Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1?
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Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1?
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137 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:57 am
CockRoche
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Hoags wrote:The thinking seems to be that only Leclaire has the potential to backstop this team to the playoffs and beyond. You don't need elite goaltending to win but you do need solid and competent goaltending.
I'd say it's unlikely but possible that Wamsley can fix the issues with Leclaire's game. Leclaire is also going to need to get into a groove, if he sucks or gets injured that won't happen. We didn't really have a good steady goalie coach last year. I don't know if Eli Wilson was a bad coach but it wasn't working out. So there's some hope that Wamsley (who has a history with Leclaire) can get results.
Elliott isn't getting enough credit, he was great last year he struggled in the playoffs but it was his first time and his first full season. Roche you should post a few thoughts on Elliott someday, I love your input on this forum. I'm not too worried about Elliott, I think he'll be solid, only a question if he can improve on last year. So far he's been improving his game with us.
With all the Vokoun talk, I have to wonder should we really pay big money for a 3-4 year NMC contract for a #1 goalie ? What if Lehner is ready before then ? We'll have a situation like Boston and Thomas.
Bottom Line: There's good reason to be concerned about our goaltending, but no reason to panic yet.
Heeeyyy-oooo. Thanks for that. I will work on something next week for you.
What are you thinking? Style, talent analysis, future outlook?
138 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:08 pm
CockRoche
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PKC wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:Let me get this straight: Leclaire is a goalie who depends on athleticism to make saves.
But he's not athletic at all according to the boot camp training...
Good stuff.
Those bootcamps are based on strength more than athleticism. I don't think they had any flexibility contests while they were there, is what I'm trying to say.
Come on. Boot camps don't involve activities such as the limbo or playing a game of bite the bag.
Athletes get their strength from their core or at least they should. Bodybuilders on the other hand don't, that's why you don't see to much of that look in sports.
For Leclaire to have such a low score, that is not good in my opinion. Ryan Miller would have flown through that obstacle course.
Don't get me wrong, Brodeur would suck at it, Luongo too probably, but they don't have the same history as Leclaire. I just think Leclaire should be working harder to keep himself healthy. That's all. I was shocked when I heard he sucked.
139 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:11 pm
CockRoche
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Big Ev wrote:Proven winner in college =/= proven winner in the NHL. Elliott is like Dan Ellis, he's decent but he'll never be a true #1 goalie. They are actually carbon copies of eachother.
That is a great comparison. But I think you are selling both goalies short, they are still young and worked their asses off to get where they are, give them time and the proper situation, they could establish themselves as #1's.
I think you will see Ellis be one of the many bright spots in Tampa Bay this season. He will get the chance to prove you wrong. Time will tell.
140 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:56 pm
spader
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CockRoche wrote:Big Ev wrote:Proven winner in college =/= proven winner in the NHL. Elliott is like Dan Ellis, he's decent but he'll never be a true #1 goalie. They are actually carbon copies of eachother.
That is a great comparison. But I think you are selling both goalies short, they are still young and worked their asses off to get where they are, give them time and the proper situation, they could establish themselves as #1's.
I think you will see Ellis be one of the many bright spots in Tampa Bay this season. He will get the chance to prove you wrong. Time will tell.
I'd trade Elliot for Ellis.
141 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:39 pm
The Silfer Server
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Oct 4: Clouston taking questions after the CFB Petawawa Team building retreat:
Don Brennan (who I just realized had the initials DB, as in Douche Bag. Funny how that works!?!?!): When did you make the decision on who starts on Friday?
Cory Clouston: When do I?
DB: When did you.
CC: When did I?!!? I don't know if I have yet.
DB: Oh, I assumed that you had. But, ok, when do you then.
CC: You'll know on Friday morning who we start.
DB: Oh, I'm not asking you what it is. I'm...
CC: Then what are you asking me then.
DB: I'm asking you when is, when, when is the decision made. Is it made coming into camp? Is it made based on the play in pre-season? Was it made thursday?
CC: Is it made thursday? This upcoming up thursday?
DB: Yeah.
CC: No. It's not made thursday. I'm not going to tell you when our decision is made. (With intense stare)
DB: Ok
CC: But i'll tell you what our decision is on Friday morning though.
Now i'm not totally hip on the vernacular, but I do believe that is considered pwnage. I think. Not sure. Maybe we should ask Mr. Douche Baa.... i mean Mr Don Brennan.
Video (the scene is around the 2:13 mark to the 2:50 mark)
Don Brennan (who I just realized had the initials DB, as in Douche Bag. Funny how that works!?!?!): When did you make the decision on who starts on Friday?
Cory Clouston: When do I?
DB: When did you.
CC: When did I?!!? I don't know if I have yet.
DB: Oh, I assumed that you had. But, ok, when do you then.
CC: You'll know on Friday morning who we start.
DB: Oh, I'm not asking you what it is. I'm...
CC: Then what are you asking me then.
DB: I'm asking you when is, when, when is the decision made. Is it made coming into camp? Is it made based on the play in pre-season? Was it made thursday?
CC: Is it made thursday? This upcoming up thursday?
DB: Yeah.
CC: No. It's not made thursday. I'm not going to tell you when our decision is made. (With intense stare)
DB: Ok
CC: But i'll tell you what our decision is on Friday morning though.
Now i'm not totally hip on the vernacular, but I do believe that is considered pwnage. I think. Not sure. Maybe we should ask Mr. Douche Baa.... i mean Mr Don Brennan.
Video (the scene is around the 2:13 mark to the 2:50 mark)
142 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:51 pm
Hoags
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Clouston is just awesome on so many levels.
His contract is up this year I hope the Sens extend him (Murray hinted as such).
His contract is up this year I hope the Sens extend him (Murray hinted as such).
143 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:04 pm
spader
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Ya, that is definitely pwnage. DB is such a tool.
144 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:09 pm
SensHulk
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siiiick. see the dumb smirk on DB's face who's got obsolutely no idea what to say next...clouston's a smart guy. he knows what's up and who's the rat who wants to attack his players in the MSM
145 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:29 pm
spader
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Michallica wrote:siiiick. see the dumb smirk on DB's face who's got obsolutely no idea what to say next...clouston's a smart guy. he knows what's up and who's the rat who wants to attack his players in the MSM
I liked how CC seemed to be annoyed with DB right from the get-go. Pretty clear that CC can't stand him.
146 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:31 pm
wprager
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This little exchange reminds me of "So you're an expert". Oh, the warm memories.
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147 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:45 pm
spader
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wprager wrote:This little exchange reminds me of "So you're an expert". Oh, the warm memories.
I don't remember that. Story please.
148 Re: Elliott or Leclaire - Who's Number 1? Wed Oct 06, 2010 5:55 pm
Riprock
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