Ottawa Senators off-season talk

Big Ev wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:In the late rounds for sure. In the first round you take the BPA because there is no reasoning (at least logical) that you would give up a potential stud D man if there is one there for a guy who The Sens and Murray really dont want, but he is considered a "skilled center".

If a guy like Gudbranson for example (wont happen) fell to 16th, you really think they are going to go after McFarland? No shot and I would be furious if they did. The 2nd, 3rd, and going on you draft for depth and guys that might fit into the organizations needs.

Not taking the BPA in the 1st round is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

Unless the BPA turns out to be a bust. But that never happens so this is a surefire strategy for sure.

Well we didn't take the BPA last year, that's for sure.

Kovalfie wrote:
I'm just saying I sort of expect a Tyler Myers but know we're not going to get one. Maybe a Coburn?

SpezDispenser wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:I know everyone's got high expectations for Cowen but I'm pretty skeptical about him right now. Wonky knee, shattered confidence from the WJHC... I really hope he's everything and more than we all expect but I seriously have my doubts.

We knew about the wonky knee when we drafted him and the Sens did their due diligence in examining him and making sure he'd recover. The kid needs this summer and the knee will be a lot better. As for the WJC, that was a joke. The Murrays weren't quiet about their displeasure with that gong show.

N4L wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:In the late rounds for sure. In the first round you take the BPA because there is no reasoning (at least logical) that you would give up a potential stud D man if there is one there for a guy who The Sens and Murray really dont want, but he is considered a "skilled center".

If a guy like Gudbranson for example (wont happen) fell to 16th, you really think they are going to go after McFarland? No shot and I would be furious if they did. The 2nd, 3rd, and going on you draft for depth and guys that might fit into the organizations needs.

Not taking the BPA in the 1st round is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

Unless the BPA turns out to be a bust. But that never happens so this is a surefire strategy for sure.

Well we didn't take the BPA last year, that's for sure.

They absolutely did, why do you think they drafted a D in Cowen. He was probably about 4th or 5th on The Sens list and they got him at 9.

Kovalfie wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:I know everyone's got high expectations for Cowen but I'm pretty skeptical about him right now. Wonky knee, shattered confidence from the WJHC... I really hope he's everything and more than we all expect but I seriously have my doubts.

We knew about the wonky knee when we drafted him and the Sens did their due diligence in examining him and making sure he'd recover. The kid needs this summer and the knee will be a lot better. As for the WJC, that was a joke. The Murrays weren't quiet about their displeasure with that gong show.

I'm just saying I sort of expect a Tyler Myers but know we're not going to get one. Maybe a Coburn?

Kovalfie wrote:

N4L wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:In the late rounds for sure. In the first round you take the BPA because there is no reasoning (at least logical) that you would give up a potential stud D man if there is one there for a guy who The Sens and Murray really dont want, but he is considered a "skilled center".

If a guy like Gudbranson for example (wont happen) fell to 16th, you really think they are going to go after McFarland? No shot and I would be furious if they did. The 2nd, 3rd, and going on you draft for depth and guys that might fit into the organizations needs.

Not taking the BPA in the 1st round is an absolute disaster waiting to happen.

Unless the BPA turns out to be a bust. But that never happens so this is a surefire strategy for sure.

Well we didn't take the BPA last year, that's for sure.

They absolutely did, why do you think they drafted a D in Cowen. He was probably about 4th or 5th on The Sens list and they got him at 9.

exactly. they knew they had wiercioch, karlsson, and gyrba, and still elected to draft another d-man because he was the bpa.

at the same time look at what happened to the Minnesota Timberwolves. They drafted the BPAs two years ago and wound up with 4 players that each played the same position. At some point you have to draft for what you need versus who's the best player at the time.

That being said, Minnesota drafted and traded 2 of these players (I believe) so why not trade down in the draft and get another asset?

N4L wrote:
I think we will have a Tyler Myers for sure, it will just take a bit longer. I dont think Myers has the mean streak that Cowen has either. Gotta be patient with him for sure. 2 or 3 years we will be talking about 2 towers on defense and Karlsson.

Seriously, Murray picked Cowen for 3 or 4 years down the road, not this year or next. He's going to be an absolute stud D man in The NHL.

N4L wrote:Cowen could very well be a better NHLer then he was Jr, and that's saying something. When you are that big and can cover that much of the ice with the speed he actually has, he's going to be a force.

MPS's potential is no where near Cowen's.

SpezDispenser wrote:That's because it would be easier/cheaper/better to have a team of monkeys GMing the Oilers.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Cowen could very well be a better NHLer then he was Jr, and that's saying something. When you are that big and can cover that much of the ice with the speed he actually has, he's going to be a force.

MPS's potential is no where near Cowen's.

If you offered Cowen to Edmonton for MPS straight-up, Kevin Lowe would tell Steve Tambellini to laugh at you.

N4L wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

N4L wrote:Cowen could very well be a better NHLer then he was Jr, and that's saying something. When you are that big and can cover that much of the ice with the speed he actually has, he's going to be a force.

MPS's potential is no where near Cowen's.

If you offered Cowen to Edmonton for MPS straight-up, Kevin Lowe would tell Steve Tambellini to laugh at you.

And vis versa, Murray would laugh Tambellini out the door as well.

Cowen is going to be a 25-30 min a night player, he just needs to work on his leg and get his stride back. MPS might be a top 6 forward.

Big Ev wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:That's because it would be easier/cheaper/better to have a team of monkeys GMing the Oilers.

There's no denying that right now MPS's stock is higher than Cowen's, so I don't see why SWSF is wrong on that one.