GAME 4 - 2010 Stanley Cup GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators (1) @ Pittsburgh Penguins (2), Tuesday Apr. 20, 2010 - 7:00PM EST.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Let's hope Murray has the vision to pay whatever it takes to improve the team.

As long as he doesn't go after a LW, we're in good shape.

I guess with Michalek and Regin playing LW that will no longer be on the shopping list. Maybe a legitmate Top 2 Center that might bump Spezza down to #2 or, at the very least, insulate Spezza by being a threat to produce? I don't know anymore.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

I guess with Michalek and Regin playing LW that will no longer be on the shopping list. Maybe a legitmate Top 2 Center that might bump Spezza down to #2 or, at the very least, insulate Spezza by being a threat to produce? I don't know anymore.

For now, I'd get a LW who can put up 30+ goals and put Regin as the 2nd line center. Get the Diddle onto the 3rd line Fisher, you're a 3rd line center, don't you realize that? OR, you're a 2nd line winger, but you have to choose.

SpezDispenser wrote: Can you imagine Marty Turco here? We'd run him out of town in the first month. He's slowly losing his ability to tend goal, we need him like we need a bullet to the brain.

Besides, some dumb GM will give him 4 million. Watch.

Now...Z.Michalek = yes please, but he'll be looking for big $$ too.

I'd do turco at 2m and nothing more. His experience would be a great asset to develop Elliott and he can step in at a moments notice. That being said there are teams looking to improve in the net and I think he will end up being a starter somewhere.

SpezDispenser wrote:

DirtyDave wrote:imagine we got clowe instead of Cheechoo... I would have given up Healtey and a 1st for Clowe and Michalek

They curse Clowe over there in SJ. Overpaid is a word I've seen connected to his name a lot of time.

I think clowe will have a rebound season next year. He will come around and earn his money. Similar to Penner. In the end Heatley screw us over but Murray should have stood pat for at least a couple of months. If he did and heatley maintained his performance i think we could have gotten more. In the least he should have stood pat on a 1st instead of a 2nd.

Phoenix30 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote: Can you imagine Marty Turco here? We'd run him out of town in the first month. He's slowly losing his ability to tend goal, we need him like we need a bullet to the brain.

Besides, some dumb GM will give him 4 million. Watch.

Now...Z.Michalek = yes please, but he'll be looking for big $$ too.

I'd do turco at 2m and nothing more. His experience would be a great asset to develop Elliott and he can step in at a moments notice. That being said there are teams looking to improve in the net and I think he will end up being a starter somewhere.

I totally agree here. Bringing Turco in at that price just as a mentor for stick handling alone is worth 2 Million. After the way Leclaire finished this season do you think Turco's a worse option? Seriously. At least Turco can teach Elliott how to handle the puck like the best in the business.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

I guess with Michalek and Regin playing LW that will no longer be on the shopping list. Maybe a legitmate Top 2 Center that might bump Spezza down to #2 or, at the very least, insulate Spezza by being a threat to produce? I don't know anymore.

For now, I'd get a LW who can put up 30+ goals and put Regin as the 2nd line center. Get the Diddle onto the 3rd line Fisher, you're a 3rd line center, don't you realize that? OR, you're a 2nd line winger, but you have to choose.

Will never happen. A big reason we'll be saying goodbye to Cullen and Regin will have to suck it up and play wing.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote: Can you imagine Marty Turco here? We'd run him out of town in the first month. He's slowly losing his ability to tend goal, we need him like we need a bullet to the brain.

Besides, some dumb GM will give him 4 million. Watch.

Now...Z.Michalek = yes please, but he'll be looking for big $$ too.

I'd do turco at 2m and nothing more. His experience would be a great asset to develop Elliott and he can step in at a moments notice. That being said there are teams looking to improve in the net and I think he will end up being a starter somewhere.

I totally agree here. Bringing Turco in at that price just as a mentor for stick handling alone is worth 2 Million. After the way Leclaire finished this season do you think Turco's a worse option? Seriously. At least Turco can teach Elliott how to handle the puck like the best in the business.

He also has the experience as a #1 and won a cup. 2m aint that bad is it.

Phoenix30 wrote:
I think clowe will have a rebound season next year. He will come around and earn his money. Similar to Penner. In the end Heatley screw us over but Murray should have stood pat for at least a couple of months. If he did and heatley maintained his performance i think we could have gotten more. In the least he should have stood pat on a 1st instead of a 2nd.

Now SJ has to deal with it. Heatley is choking so badly he's gagging right now, it's embarrassing.

Phoenix30 wrote:
He also has the experience as a #1 and won a cup. 2m aint that bad is it.

Did he win a Cup?

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
I think clowe will have a rebound season next year. He will come around and earn his money. Similar to Penner. In the end Heatley screw us over but Murray should have stood pat for at least a couple of months. If he did and heatley maintained his performance i think we could have gotten more. In the least he should have stood pat on a 1st instead of a 2nd.

Now SJ has to deal with it. Heatley is choking so badly he's gagging right now, it's embarrassing.

I love it! Eat it Heatbag! Did he score or do anything last night?
Man, I guess I can just hope for failure for everyone else at this point. The bitterness is going to linger for a long time. I will go for all underdogs except for Montreal at this point.

He never won a cup. What are you talking about? ROman Turek did though.

SensGirl11 wrote:
I love it! Eat it Heatbag! Did he score or do anything last night?
Man, I guess I can just hope for failure for everyone else at this point. The bitterness is going to linger for a long time. I will go for all underdogs except for Montreal at this point.

When I say he's choking, I'm not kidding. He has 1 assist in 3 games while sporting a -2. It doesn't get any worse than that.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
I love it! Eat it Heatbag! Did he score or do anything last night?
Man, I guess I can just hope for failure for everyone else at this point. The bitterness is going to linger for a long time. I will go for all underdogs except for Montreal at this point.

When I say he's choking, I'm not kidding. He has 1 assist in 3 games while sporting a -2. It doesn't get any worse than that.

Where's Mr. Burns when you need him?

SpezDispenser wrote:
When I say he's choking, I'm not kidding. He has 1 assist in 3 games while sporting a -2. It doesn't get any worse than that.

But he's Dany F'n Heatley... he's an Allstar !

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
He also has the experience as a #1 and won a cup. 2m aint that bad is it.

Did he win a Cup?

my mistake he was in the dallas system and playing in the IHF when they won the cup in 98/99. So nope.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:
When I say he's choking, I'm not kidding. He has 1 assist in 3 games while sporting a -2. It doesn't get any worse than that.

But he's Dany F'n Heatley... he's an Allstar !

Granted though that it's early and at least the Sharks are tied in the series, but yeah, it's been deplorable. LOTS of perimeter play from the Fing All-Star. And Thornton thinks because he mixes it up in scrums after the whistle, that he's 'involved'. Fail, fail, fail.

You know why they're failing? It's Karma for ripping us off on the trade.

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
I think clowe will have a rebound season next year. He will come around and earn his money. Similar to Penner. In the end Heatley screw us over but Murray should have stood pat for at least a couple of months. If he did and heatley maintained his performance i think we could have gotten more. In the least he should have stood pat on a 1st instead of a 2nd.

Now SJ has to deal with it. Heatley is choking so badly he's gagging right now, it's embarrassing.

:laugh: I love it! Eat it Heatbag! Did he score or do anything last night?
Man, I guess I can just hope for failure for everyone else at this point. The bitterness is going to linger for a long time. I will go for all underdogs except for Montreal at this point.

I am hoping for Colorado to advance. From the games I watched so far, heatley has been his usual self in the playoffs. If SJS goes out in the 1st, there should be major changes coming.

39 goals and 43 assists for 82 points in 82 games for DH compared to 22 goals and 12 assists for 34 points in 66 games for Michalek who also was injuried throughout the season.

I suspect his numbers will be better with an injury free season. To add to that Heatley is familar playing with Thorton and Marleau where its all new for Michalek. It doesnt look like we won that deal but I am guessing it will only get better for us. Gotta love cap savings.

I'm still not sure whether we were overachievers in the regular season or not.

The decline in the Sens' play is mind boggling.

Did Clouston not prepare this team for the playoffs ?

Did losing Kovalev, Michalek and Kuba snuff our chances this much ?

I'm really frustrated and angry, I don't mind losing, but losing like this ..... it's sad.

Philadelphia can win with Brian Boucher in nets ... and they're a bigger goalie graveyard than we are.