Brian Lee re-signed by Sens for 2 years

N4L wrote:

RobbyJ wrote:Lee made 850K this year, so it was either sign him now, let him walk as a non-tendered UFA or tender him in the summer for 900K+.

Im of the opinion you probably could have signed him to a one way contract for a little less because he would have signed anything saying "one way". But again, it's pennies in the grand sceme of things.

I think he will have played enough NHL games (don't quote me but I think it's 60) to need a one-way tender after this year.

I think he's at like 77 right now so... not sure though. Anyways, good signing, not gonna hurt the franchise and it creates compition in camp.

We're fine, all we can do is see how he continues to develop. No matter what anyone says though 875K is 875K, so if they feel he's not the right guy to have around, he'll be gone as part of a package deal at the draft.

Anyway, all this really means is that A-Train is going and Murray is starting to cover his bases. Next should be someone relevant like Sutton though, but Murray's one of the best for a reason, he'll get it done.

I don't know why people are freaking out. We are just signing an asset here, and not letting him walk away for free.

I value Lee a little higher than the average poster, but even if he's our #6 guy it's good to have him around and signed.

stempniaksen wrote:I don't know why people are freaking out. We are just signing an asset here, and not letting him walk away for free.

I value Lee a little higher than the average poster, but even if he's our #6 guy it's good to have him around and signed.

I dont even think he's good enough to be number 6 in Ottawa at this point or think he is NHL ready, but there is no reason to let him walk. He isnt hopeless, he just should have never been drafted 9th overall. He is an asset.

N4L wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:875,000 per year.... any GM interested raise your hand

seriously i think there's a few prospects and players that could be gone before the draft. we could use another couple of 2nd rounders... lee, campoli, o'brien, zubov (if it can be done). even cody bass, i like him but i'm not sure he's got much of a shot at making the team anymore....

LOVED him up in Ottawa, he will be a better NHLer then an AHLer. Sucks for him because if he didnt get injured he would be an Ottawa Senator right now, in that time though, Smith has defently taken his place.

Well said though, I agree with all of this. 875K though, man, thats a bigger hit then I thought, but oh well.

Under CBA rules, I think that's pretty much the minimum qualifying offer for Lee given his previous contract. He made $850K + bonuses on his last deal. I haven't analyzed this one closely, for sure, but I'd say it's based on his previous deal plus the standard 10% raise or so -- that's the standard stuff of qualifying offers.

Get a load of this quote from NHL.com's game day preview: http://www.nhl.com/ice/preview.htm?id=2009020983

The Senators made sure an important piece of their future will be staying put by signing 22-year-old defenseman Brian Lee to a new two-year contract on Monday, preventing him from becoming a restricted free agent at season’s end.

I am not making this up.

rooneypoo wrote:

N4L wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:875,000 per year.... any GM interested raise your hand

seriously i think there's a few prospects and players that could be gone before the draft. we could use another couple of 2nd rounders... lee, campoli, o'brien, zubov (if it can be done). even cody bass, i like him but i'm not sure he's got much of a shot at making the team anymore....

LOVED him up in Ottawa, he will be a better NHLer then an AHLer. Sucks for him because if he didnt get injured he would be an Ottawa Senator right now, in that time though, Smith has defently taken his place.

Well said though, I agree with all of this. 875K though, man, thats a bigger hit then I thought, but oh well.

Under CBA rules, I think that's pretty much the minimum qualifying offer for Lee given his previous contract. He made $850K + bonuses on his last deal. I haven't analyzed this one closely, for sure, but I'd say it's based on his previous deal plus the standard 10% raise or so -- that's the standard stuff of qualifying offers.

Ya, but is this a qaulifying deal? I think it was just a deal for lack of a better term. A qualifying offer to the best of my knowledge doesnt have to a one way deal either. I could be totally wrong here but Im pretty sure that this wouldnt qualify as a "qaulifying offer".

I guess they knew that if Brian Lee got to the point where he had to be qualified, then he'd get the 10% raise anyway.

N4L wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

N4L wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:875,000 per year.... any GM interested raise your hand

seriously i think there's a few prospects and players that could be gone before the draft. we could use another couple of 2nd rounders... lee, campoli, o'brien, zubov (if it can be done). even cody bass, i like him but i'm not sure he's got much of a shot at making the team anymore....

LOVED him up in Ottawa, he will be a better NHLer then an AHLer. Sucks for him because if he didnt get injured he would be an Ottawa Senator right now, in that time though, Smith has defently taken his place.

Well said though, I agree with all of this. 875K though, man, thats a bigger hit then I thought, but oh well.

Under CBA rules, I think that's pretty much the minimum qualifying offer for Lee given his previous contract. He made $850K + bonuses on his last deal. I haven't analyzed this one closely, for sure, but I'd say it's based on his previous deal plus the standard 10% raise or so -- that's the standard stuff of qualifying offers.

Ya, but is this a qaulifying deal? I think it was just a deal for lack of a better term. A qualifying offer to the best of my knowledge doesnt have to a one way deal either. I could be totally wrong here but Im pretty sure that this wouldnt qualify as a "qaulifying offer".

Oh no, it wasn't a qualifying offer -- but given those numbers, it's pretty much the exact same as what a qualifying offer would have been for Lee. You may well have a point about the one-way / two-way thing -- I honestly don't know on that one.

Anyway, I think this is just a price we pay to make sure we don't have an asset just walk away from us. It's not going to hinder his trade value (whatever that is), and that deal is not going to break anyone's bank. But I don't think Lee's place with the organization is any safer today than it was back in, say, October of 2009.

stempniaksen wrote:I don't know why people are freaking out. We are just signing an asset here, and not letting him walk away for free.

I value Lee a little higher than the average poster, but even if he's our #6 guy it's good to have him around and signed.

Lee is better than talked about on here that is for sure. most D take longer to develop and learn the game. There is a lot to get used to. Not everybody is a Doughty, Bogo, Karlsson, no matter where they are drafted. Just because he was drafted a tad early, doesn't mean we should give up on him. He still has the potential to be a reguler 45-50 point D-man. this contract is one step into the 4 or 5 years it will take to get there for the sens.

cloverleaf wrote:

stempniaksen wrote:I don't know why people are freaking out. We are just signing an asset here, and not letting him walk away for free.

I value Lee a little higher than the average poster, but even if he's our #6 guy it's good to have him around and signed.

Lee is better than talked about on here that is for sure. most D take longer to develop and learn the game. There is a lot to get used to. Not everybody is a Doughty, Bogo, Karlsson, no matter where they are drafted. Just because he was drafted a tad early, doesn't mean we should give up on him. He still has the potential to be a reguler 45-50 point D-man. this contract is one step into the 4 or 5 years it will take to get there for the sens.

My problem isn't with his skills/knowlegde development, it is that he is a giant Front Bum.

I think the intent in drafting Lee was to have a successor to Wade Redden. Has that been achieved?

SeawaySensFan wrote:I think the intent in drafting Lee was to have a successor to Wade Redden. Has that been achieved?

Depends. If people were looking for a soft defenseman with little to no NHL strength who coasts on above average skating skills because he doesn't possess the on-puck intensity that other defensemen do, has no real impact behind his shot, can make an outlet pass and is a pretty boy in almost every definition of the term...then yeah I think we got our guy.

PKC wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I think the intent in drafting Lee was to have a successor to Wade Redden. Has that been achieved?

Depends. If people were looking for a soft defenseman with little to no NHL strength who coasts on above average skating skills because he doesn't possess the on-puck intensity that other defensemen do, has no real impact behind his shot, can make an outlet pass and is a pretty boy in almost every definition of the term...then yeah I think we got our guy.

Then you see my point.

We will see how things turn out right now, Im not a fan of his or hate his game, but who knows. I dont have a problem signing the guy but if he doesnt start to show he is physically ready now and work his a$$ off, he will find his NHL career is a short one.

Lee is probably one of the weakest D men in terms of physical strength I have ever seen. Redden has abslutely nothing on him, its not even close.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I think the intent in drafting Lee was to have a successor to Wade Redden. Has that been achieved?

The Wade Redden of today, or the Wade Redden circa 2005? If you were looking for a successor to the Wade Redden of today, you go it!

cloverleaf wrote:
Lee is better than talked about on here that is for sure. most D take longer to develop and learn the game. There is a lot to get used to. Not everybody is a Doughty, Bogo, Karlsson, no matter where they are drafted. Just because he was drafted a tad early, doesn't mean we should give up on him. He still has the potential to be a reguler 45-50 point D-man. this contract is one step into the 4 or 5 years it will take to get there for the sens.

While this is full of good points, I can't imagine in what stratosphere Brian Lee can ever get 45-50 points. The rest I agree with though, if he can work hard and learn to be a man, he might be of use.