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SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hoags wrote:Even so, Vinny has an NTC and doesn't want to leave TB so trading him isn't as easy as internet rumourmongers make it sound.

How did the exact same thing work out for Danny Boyle?

That makes me mad to this day. Oh no, we can't pay Boyle that kind of money into his late thirties. No sir.

What would it have cost us? Mezaros and a 2nd rounder - maybe even Mez straight up. Did you like what you saw from Karlsson so far? Well this is Karlsson 8 years from now and he could have been ours.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Completely worth overpaying for Lecavalier for that reason alone.

Hahaha that's soooo true

SeawaySensFan wrote:
How did the exact same thing work out for Danny Boyle?

Just because it worked for Boyle don't necessarily mean it'll work for Vinny.

I also think it'd be a mistake to commit that much money for 2 centers when we're weaker on the wing. You want be like the Penguins ? 2 top centres and no wingers ?

Fish is awesome as #2 centre so unless we move Spezza it makes no sense to pay that much for a #2 centre ... even so why take on a MORE expensive older centre. We're better off making a run at Kovalchuk on July 1st, have Spezza playing with an elite sniper again.

And I don't see Eugene taking on such a contract after what happened this summer. Let's not forget he signs the paycheques.

Kubina sounds interesting, what would it take?

The only real way to do a Lecavalier deal for Ottawa is to do:

Fisher + Leclaire + Cheechoo + Wericioch + 1st 2010

for

Lecavalier + Smith

Unfortunately trades like that rarely, if ever, happen.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Hoags wrote:Even so, Vinny has an NTC and doesn't want to leave TB so trading him isn't as easy as internet rumourmongers make it sound.

How did the exact same thing work out for Danny Boyle?

That makes me mad to this day. Oh no, we can't pay Boyle that kind of money into his late thirties. No sir.

What would it have cost us? Mezaros and a 2nd rounder - maybe even Mez straight up. Did you like what you saw from Karlsson so far? Well this is Karlsson 8 years from now and he could have been ours.

I know Murray kicked the tires a little, but was Boyle willing to waive NTC to come to Ottawa??

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
How did the exact same thing work out for Danny Boyle?

Just because it worked for Boyle don't necessarily mean it'll work for Vinny.

I also think it'd be a mistake to commit that much money for 2 centers when we're weaker on the wing. You want be like the Penguins ? 2 top centres and no wingers ?

Fish is awesome as #2 centre so unless we move Spezza it makes no sense to pay that much for a #2 centre ... even so why take on a MORE expensive older centre. We're better off making a run at Kovalchuk on July 1st.

And I don't see Eugene taking on such a contract after what happened this summer. Let's not forget he signs the paycheques.

Awesomer than Lecavalier? If you're that worried about age, Fisher is the same age as Lecavalier. Just trade Fish before he's in line for a 5 million dollar deal.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Awesomer than Lecavalier? If you're that worried about age, Fisher is the same age as Lecavalier. Just trade Fish before he's in line for a 5 million dollar deal.

It's a waste for Vinny to be anything other than #1.

And Fish @ 5M is still cheaper than Vinny, plus he comes with Carrie

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
Awesomer than Lecavalier? If you're that worried about age, Fisher is the same age as Lecavalier. Just trade Fish before he's in line for a 5 million dollar deal.

It's a waste for Vinny to be anything other than #1.

And Fish @ 5M is still cheaper than Vinny, plus he comes with Carrie

It's a waste for the Ottawa Senators to be spending to the Cap for anything less than the best players available.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
It's a waste for the Ottawa Senators to be spending to the Cap for anything less than the best players available.

We don't even know if he is available, not to mention I think we should be shoring up our defense or wingers before acquiring another pricey centre.

If we're gonna be big spenders at the deadline I'd say get a PMD (so we don't rely on a 19-year old rookie) or a sniper.

Michallica wrote:
I know Murray kicked the tires a little, but was Boyle willing to waive NTC to come to Ottawa??

I hate to tell you this Michallica...but Boyle was IN Ottawa at the time, working out with Grecko or whatever that place is called. He was telling people there that he was coming here for sure, but was then told by his agent that Ottawa couldn't do it, but the other team he'd waive his NTC was putting a package together. He was upset of course, his heart was here, he's an Ottawa boy, he was excited to join a team with Spezza, Alfredsson and Heatley not to mention the others.

This comes from people who were there, heard this happen. It's all quite sad IMO...although, I guess it worked out for him.

PKC wrote:The only real way to do a Lecavalier deal for Ottawa is to do:

Fisher + Leclaire + Cheechoo + Wericioch + 1st 2010

for

Lecavalier + Smith

Unfortunately trades like that rarely, if ever, happen.

I think you can through Lee in there instead of Wiercoich, a team will prob want more of a proven guy in all honesty. Who knows though and this is all prob just some BS but keep in mind Vinny is pretty hard to move at this point with that salary.

SDH89 wrote:Kubina sounds interesting, what would it take?

I'm wondering the same thing right now. O'Brien + Campoli? But, that doesn't clear the room necessary to take on his contract.

He'd be a nice fit here to say the least.

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
It's a waste for the Ottawa Senators to be spending to the Cap for anything less than the best players available.

We don't even know if he is available, not to mention I think we should be shoring up our defense or wingers before acquiring another pricey centre.

If we're gonna be big spenders at the deadline I'd say get a PMD (so we don't rely on a 19-year old rookie) or a sniper.

I've been saying a LW since Day One. I don't see a problem with the defense. The coaching staff choose to have forwards man the point on the PP and that's their problem. We're deep when it comes to PMDs, Kuba, Karlsson, Campoli...

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I've been saying a LW since Day One. I don't see a problem with the defense. The coaching staff choose to have forwards man the point on the PP and that's their problem. We're deep when it comes to PMDs, Kuba, Karlsson, Campoli...

Karlsson is the only real good PMD we got. I'm disappointed at Campoli and Kuba this year. They're OK at best but for a real playoff run we could do better if the right deal comes along.

I'm ALL for getting a top notch LW'er, which is why I hoped we could land Kovalchuk somehow. We're good with former #1 Thrasher picks ... I'm sure he's not a headcase like Heatley

We need to pair Spezza with a dangerous scorer... Michalek isn't quite cutting it imho.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SDH89 wrote:Kubina sounds interesting, what would it take?

I'm wondering the same thing right now. O'Brien + Campoli? But, that doesn't clear the room necessary to take on his contract.

He'd be a nice fit here to say the least.

If you want Kubina that bad, I'm sure ATL would consider Cheechoo, Kelly and Picard for Kubina and Slater.

Hoags wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I've been saying a LW since Day One. I don't see a problem with the defense. The coaching staff choose to have forwards man the point on the PP and that's their problem. We're deep when it comes to PMDs, Kuba, Karlsson, Campoli...

Karlsson is the only real good PMD we got. I'm disappointed at Campoli and Kuba this year. They're OK at best but for a real playoff run we could do better if the right deal comes along.

I'm ALL for getting a top notch LW'er, which is why I hoped we could land Kovalchuk somehow. We're good with former #1 Thrasher picks ... I'm sure he's not a headcase like Heatley

We need to pair Spezza with a dangerous scorer... Michalek isn't quite cutting it
imho.

michalek is more of a second line LW. isnt frolov a up coming free agent ? all though he is not the best either

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SDH89 wrote:Kubina sounds interesting, what would it take?

I'm wondering the same thing right now. O'Brien + Campoli? But, that doesn't clear the room necessary to take on his contract.

He'd be a nice fit here to say the least.

If you want Kubina that bad, I'm sure ATL would consider Cheechoo, Kelly and Picard for Kubina and Slater.

you guys want a former leaf on our team