Filatov to Ottawa?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I'd have to see Filatov return to the Jackets before I pulled the trigger on any deal involving him if it was me.

And I'm assuming that every GM that has any interest is thinking along those lines and since that won't happen I doubt you're left with a huge asking price.

It is the nature of being a fan that unproven talent is often more valued than proven talent.

As a GM, you are not going to give a Roster player and high pick for an unproven prospect, with the exception of an Ovechkin, Crosby, etc...

My guess is Columbus would require either a 1st round pick OR a young player OR a blue chip prospect.

So I would think it would be our 1st OR Foligno OR Weirchoch/Cowen/Karlsson for Filitov.

RobbyJ wrote:It is the nature of being a fan that unproven talent is often more valued than proven talent.

As a GM, you are not going to give a Roster player and high pick for an unproven prospect, with the exception of an Ovechkin, Crosby, etc...

My guess is Columbus would require either a 1st round pick OR a young player OR a blue chip prospect.

So I would think it would be our 1st OR Foligno OR Weirchoch/Cowen/Karlsson for Filitov.

sound logic

Ottawa doesn't really have a very tradable roster like most teams.

They have untouchables in Spezza, Michalek, Fisher, Alfie, Karlsson, and Phillips.

Fan favourites in Volchenkov, Neil, Carkner.

The over-paid/under-achieving that would be hard to move in Kovalev, and Cheechoo

The dependable guys under decent contracts in Kelly and Kuba

That leaves us with possible trade candidates: Campoli, Picard, Shannon, Foligno, Donovan, Regin, Winchester, and Ruuttu

We have zero offensive prospects coming up in the system. I would trade any of those left available and our 1st for Filatov. If we make the playoffs, I can guarantee that our 1st round pick won't be nearly as good as Filatov. You're essentially trading a lot of potential for potential and a fringe NHL player. I'd do it in a second

RobbyJ wrote:It is the nature of being a fan that unproven talent is often more valued than proven talent.

As a GM, you are not going to give a Roster player and high pick for an unproven prospect, with the exception of an Ovechkin, Crosby, etc...

My guess is Columbus would require either a 1st round pick OR a young player OR a blue chip prospect.

So I would think it would be our 1st OR Foligno OR Weirchoch/Cowen/Karlsson for Filitov.

None of those guys are posing any kind of a problem for us. Clearly, Filatov has decided he will never play for the Jackets again. The "loan" is nothing more than a smokescreen that saves the organization some face and retains some value for the player with the appearance that he didn't necessarily ask to go to Russia.

Just a "loan".

Hitch treated him like crap in Columbus, if he decided he never wanted to play for the coach again, like Richards and Carter, I would understand and agree.

I think Hitch is a piece of trash when it comes to coaching. He's on the verge of killing Steve Mason at this point as well.

N4L wrote:Hitch treated him like crap in Columbus, if he decided he never wanted to play for the coach again, like Richards and Carter, I would understand and agree.

I think Hitch is a piece of trash when it comes to coaching. He's on the verge of killing Steve Mason at this point as well.

I just read that he "forced" Voracek to cut his hair.

Kovalfie wrote:Ottawa doesn't really have a very tradable roster like most teams.

They have untouchables in Spezza, Michalek, Fisher, Alfie, Karlsson, and Phillips.

Fan favourites in Volchenkov, Neil, Carkner.

The over-paid/under-achieving that would be hard to move in Kovalev, and Cheechoo

The dependable guys under decent contracts in Kelly and Kuba

That leaves us with possible trade candidates: Campoli, Picard, Shannon, Foligno, Donovan, Regin, Winchester, and Ruuttu

We have zero offensive prospects coming up in the system. I would trade any of those left available and our 1st for Filatov. If we make the playoffs, I can guarantee that our 1st round pick won't be nearly as good as Filatov. You're essentially trading a lot of potential for potential and a fringe NHL player. I'd do it in a second

Not that I think Columbus would ever take him, but until his NTC kicks in or he shows some serious improvement, I dont think he's untouchable, especially if The Sens have some success without any real production from him.

N4L wrote:
Not that I think Columbus would ever take him, but until his NTC kicks in or he shows some serious improvement, I dont think he's untouchable, especially if The Sens have some success without any real production from him.

Columbus would kill for Jason Spezza. Anyone who's an elite passer for Nash.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
Not that I think Columbus would ever take him, but until his NTC kicks in or he shows some serious improvement, I dont think he's untouchable, especially if The Sens have some success without any real production from him.

Columbus would kill for Jason Spezza. Anyone who's an elite passer for Nash.

I would take that bust, Vermette and Filatov as part of a package.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
Not that I think Columbus would ever take him, but until his NTC kicks in or he shows some serious improvement, I dont think he's untouchable, especially if The Sens have some success without any real production from him.

Columbus would kill for Jason Spezza. Anyone who's an elite passer for Nash.

Nash has a lot more Michalek in him then Heatley dude. Last thing Nash needs is Spezza. He can do most of it himself.

That and Nash has his centermen in Vermette, who looks fantastic right beside him.

N4L wrote:
Nash has a lot more Michalek in him then Heatley dude. Last thing Nash needs is Spezza. He can do most of it himself.

He does, but imagine having someone who can get him the puck in any scenario. For example, the PP for Columbus is okay, but imagine with Spezza feeding Nash? That would be the final piece needed for the BJs to start to do some damage.

That and a PP specialist. And not Campoli, someone who's elite. Those two pieces and the BJs are rocking.

Dude, lol, I dont know what kind of player you think Spezza is but he isnt anywhere the final piece. Seriously man, you're views on Spezza are a little out of wack. The last player Nash needs is a Jason Spezza type.

Columbus has Vermette and Brassard, both who are very solid players and are most defently better fits the Spezza in Columbus. Hitch put Spezza on the friggin 4th line on the Word Championship team, he would be useless in Columbus.

Columbus is missing a D man or two, not a Jason Spezza... There is one, maybe two teams that Spezza might help out at this point and it's Edmonton and perhaps Pheonix.

N4L wrote:Dude, lol, I dont know what kind of player you think Spezza is but he isnt anywhere the final piece. Seriously man, you're views on Spezza are a little out of wack. The last player Nash needs is a Jason Spezza type.

Columbus has Vermette and Brassard, both who are very solid players and are most defently better fits the Spezza in Columbus. Hitch put Spezza on the friggin 4th line on the Word Championship team, he would be useless in Columbus.

Columbus is missing a D man or two, not a Jason Spezza... There is one, maybe two teams that Spezza might help out at this point and it's Edmonton and perhaps Pheonix.

I actually envisioned him in Edmonton myself for some reason. Just a feeling, I guess.

Edmonton is a team better suited for Spezza, his skill set, and the direction that team needs to head. Has a big winger in Penner, a playmaker in Hemsky, and some other pieces there where he can be a lot more successful then he can in Ottawa.

Like everyone knows, he was seconds from becoming an Oiler.

N4L wrote:Dude, lol, I dont know what kind of player you think Spezza is but he isnt anywhere the final piece. Seriously man, you're views on Spezza are a little out of wack. The last player Nash needs is a Jason Spezza type.

Columbus has Vermette and Brassard, both who are very solid players and are most defently better fits the Spezza in Columbus. Hitch put Spezza on the friggin 4th line on the Word Championship team, he would be useless in Columbus.

Columbus is missing a D man or two, not a Jason Spezza... There is one, maybe two teams that Spezza might help out at this point and it's Edmonton and perhaps Pheonix.

I still don't buy that. One of the premiere passers in the game - one of the most terrifying goal scorers in the game.

Spezza had 91 points in 68 games but two years ago, why all of a sudden would he be completely useless? It's POVs like that that get GMs fired for trading big name players. They don't magically lose their abilities over the course of one year at the age of 25. This is one of the highest PPG players since the lockout. Am I getting pissed that he's not doing anything? Absolutely. Do I want to run him out of town? No. Would he help the BJs and Nash? Yes indeed.

Edmonton was rumoured to want him last year, but really, who would take him now.