Senators send Karlsson To Bingo

asq2 wrote:I thought he stood to benefit more from learning to play within the speed of the NHL game. He's not going to get any stronger playing in Bingo.

This move is about the team. So I'm in agreement with Neely on this one, Campoli's gotta step up.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:The only thing that pisses me off about Shannon is that he was playing PP minutes on the POINT!!! that should have gone to Karlsson.

Me too. That was Clouston's decision - and I thought it was an odd one. Sounds like it's gonna be Alfie and Kuba now on PP1, that's a lot better.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:I thought he stood to benefit more from learning to play within the speed of the NHL game. He's not going to get any stronger playing in Bingo.

This move is about the team. So I'm in agreement with Neely on this one, Campoli's gotta step up.

Really? You don't think he's still got a tonne to learn and that possibly the AHL might be the better place to learn it?

N4L wrote:
You keep brining up last year with Shannon? That was before his concussion this year, before he got his way deal, and before we had tons of depth. I get you like him but there is no possible way to justify is spot in the game day lineup at this point. None.

This is the best move for RIGHT NOW, which I get and understand, but this is now a signal they are going for some success this year and not so much a building year anymore.

If the plan is to bring up Karlsson, Cowen, Wierchoich, and Lee together, then alright, I can buy that, but I'm not buying he wasnt ready, he was and it was pretty evident in that Boston game he was. He got better every game, was the best PP QB we had so far this year, and he was getting more and more confident. Just dont hand me the "he wasnt ready" arguement.

100% the last we see of the kid this year though. He wont be back and Lee will be the callup if someone goes down. Picard also better keep up this pace and keep playing well as well because to his credit, he stole that 6th job from Karlsson and he has been better, but he needs to keep it up.

MurderOnIce wrote:He needs to learn how to win puck battles and the AHL is a good training ground for that IMO. Plus he will see a ton of ice. Not bad really.

ElliottRules wrote:Wow is all I can say. Is this because he is the only one that they can send down now that Kuba is coming back and Carkner has signed a 1-way?

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:
You keep brining up last year with Shannon? That was before his concussion this year, before he got his way deal, and before we had tons of depth. I get you like him but there is no possible way to justify is spot in the game day lineup at this point. None.

This is the best move for RIGHT NOW, which I get and understand, but this is now a signal they are going for some success this year and not so much a building year anymore.

If the plan is to bring up Karlsson, Cowen, Wierchoich, and Lee together, then alright, I can buy that, but I'm not buying he wasnt ready, he was and it was pretty evident in that Boston game he was. He got better every game, was the best PP QB we had so far this year, and he was getting more and more confident. Just dont hand me the "he wasnt ready" arguement.

100% the last we see of the kid this year though. He wont be back and Lee will be the callup if someone goes down. Picard also better keep up this pace and keep playing well as well because to his credit, he stole that 6th job from Karlsson and he has been better, but he needs to keep it up.

Yeah, if Shannon's noodle has been irreparably damaged, then he'll be gone soon enough (or permanently sat), but I don't think it has, I think he's a step behind everyone and he's gripping the stick really, really tight because there's so much depth behind him. That said, I've thought he's been quite good exposing players with his speed. He could be a lot better obviously, but he's not gonna quit out there, that much we can count on.

As for the Karlsson argument, I personally had reservations about him being 100% ready for the NHL. I think he will be soon enough if he works hard, which he will, but I wasn't sure it was best for him to be here right now through the rigors of an NHL schedule when he could be getting more ice time and more opportunities in Bingo.

One thing's for sure, he'll be one confident young man next training camp - although, I think we might see him back this year at some point.

asq2 wrote:
He's shown he can play in the NA rinks in the Juniors.

What does he have to learn? His decision-making has to get faster and he's got to improve defensively - both of these may come somewhat in the AHL but the NHL's speed is way different and that's been the biggest stumbling block so far.

He has to get bigger and stronger as well, as we all knew, but that won't happen no matter where he's playing.

On the other hand, Team Sweden's junior team collectively crapped their pants at this move.

N4L wrote:
Dude, he's not coming back this year. They sent him down now to save a year on his ELC, that's it. If that wasnt an issue they would see how he played with Kuba.

Lee is the next guy in line right now.

SpezDispenser wrote:

asq2 wrote:
He's shown he can play in the NA rinks in the Juniors.

What does he have to learn? His decision-making has to get faster and he's got to improve defensively - both of these may come somewhat in the AHL but the NHL's speed is way different and that's been the biggest stumbling block so far.

He has to get bigger and stronger as well, as we all knew, but that won't happen no matter where he's playing.

On the other hand, Team Sweden's junior team collectively crapped their pants at this move.

He has to re-learn success and what it means to have 3 point games and dominate. Then transfer the knowledge he (better) bet getting in the AHL into the NHL when he comes back. He also needs to be THE guy in the AHL, not just Bingo, he needs to come into the situation down there and immediately be in the running for Rookie of the Year. His confidence is boosted, his decision making gets marginally better (compared to the NHL), he comes back to the NHL with a fresh perspective on how the game is played and at what speed and he uses that knowledge combined with that confidence to never again be anywhere other than the NHL.

That's how I see it. This is but a minor, tiny little setback for Erik Karlsson.

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N4L wrote:
Dude, he's not coming back this year. They sent him down now to save a year on his ELC, that's it. If that wasnt an issue they would see how he played with Kuba.

Lee is the next guy in line right now.

That's life then.

N4L wrote:Well, Campoli better play lights out because he's the one who truly doesnt deserve to be there. Him and Shannon have a lot to prove if they stay in the lineup.

Shocked about this, but I guess the two way contract and ELC is what made the difference. He wont be back in Ottawa this year, garenteed.

Clouston better make the playoffs now because this move was about the now, not the future.

Phoenix30 wrote:I do believe that Carkner would have to clear waivers if he was sent down now and would easily get picked off based on his play this year. And its about time that Karlsson was sent down. It would give him time to learn the American side of the game without the high expectations of playing at the NHL level.

jamvan wrote:What a terrible decision. Send hom back to Sweden if anything. I have to say I don't agree with this decision.