Heatley's press conference

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:LOL. Today, a bunch of you go your wish. Was it everything you hoped for?

Hate to pull a N4L, but... can I say "told you so" yet? I knew no one would like him one shred better for opening his mouth, and that the general perception would be that he's only hurt his own value and further hampered the team's efforts to move him.

Anywan, I took two things out of today:

1) Heatley was surprising calm, unemotional, even seemingly honest. I thought he actually came off well, to be honest, but I haven't been stabbing a miniature Heatley doll all summer long, either, like some people.

2) The Sens are going to do everything to get this guy off of their team before training camp. I say that because Heatley was so unapologetic about, so steadfast in his decision. I went into today thinking there was a 60/40 chance that Heatley would be traded before the season started. I left that interview thinking that figure jumped to about 80/20.

Careful what you wish for, eh, guys?

But does doing everything equate to letting other teams fleece us because they know we're up against a brick wall?

At some point, Murray is going to have to decide if it's better to take a lesser offer and just get Heatley outta here in order to prevent any further damage he could do in the room if he remains a Senator.

That's a tough decision.

No, I don't think he's waited this long just to get fleeced. At the same time, tho', he may well have to settle for the kind of offer EDM made, tho' -- one good, desirable young player; one burden; one good prospect.

We are not going to get full value no matter what, now; that's been true since the day the news leaked, although I confess I didn't see it that way at the time.

rooneypoo wrote:LOL. Today, a bunch of you go your wish. Was it everything you hoped for?

Hate to pull a N4L, but... can I say "told you so" yet? I knew no one would like him one shred better for opening his mouth, and that the general perception would be that he's only hurt his own value and further hampered the team's efforts to move him.

Anywan, I took two things out of today:

1) Heatley was surprising calm, unemotional, even seemingly honest. I thought he actually came off well, to be honest, but I haven't been stabbing a miniature Heatley doll all summer long, either, like some people.

2) The Sens are going to do everything to get this guy off of their team before training camp. I say that because Heatley was so unapologetic about, so steadfast in his decision. I went into today thinking there was a 60/40 chance that Heatley would be traded before the season started. I left that interview thinking that figure jumped to about 80/20.

Careful what you wish for, eh, guys?

I honestly don't get why people think this was bad. He spoke, reiterated his request, stated he would come to camp in Ottawa and give it his all.

How does this put Murray in a worse situation than before today ? All summer there had been talk of Heatley not reporting to camp. Now Murray can just tell other GMs that he doesn't "NEED" to trade Heatley.

One point that will need to be clarified by the League and NHLPA should Heatley stay in Ottawa this season revolves around the written trade request and teams he would waive for. Is this a legal document stating that Heatley has waived his NMC to those teams, and if so, is there a time limit on the list. In other words has Heatley essentially changed his NMC to a limited NMC for the duration of his contract ?

Dawg's Wife wrote:I think Dawg will be surprised to hear that someone called me refined.

I live in a chicago suburb which has everyone living in 500K plus homes and driving expensive cars (assuming they drive and don't have a driver to do it for them).

My kids go to a public school, which is still better than most public schools in other area of the country. Anyway I was at a block party and one of the snobs called me trash because i choose to drive a mazda MX9 and I choose to send my kids to public school and let them play with kids of all other cultures and back grounds. I kinda caused a scene when I asked the lady if she has her maid blow her husband for her cause he appears to be happier now than he was shortly after they married.

That's it, Party over, DW...to your room for a time out.

Are you sure you didn't see this on Desperate Housewives? If not, send that to Marc Cherry. This is good stuff. He could use it!

rooneypoo wrote:

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:LOL. Today, a bunch of you go your wish. Was it everything you hoped for?

Hate to pull a N4L, but... can I say "told you so" yet? I knew no one would like him one shred better for opening his mouth, and that the general perception would be that he's only hurt his own value and further hampered the team's efforts to move him.

Anywan, I took two things out of today:

1) Heatley was surprising calm, unemotional, even seemingly honest. I thought he actually came off well, to be honest, but I haven't been stabbing a miniature Heatley doll all summer long, either, like some people.

2) The Sens are going to do everything to get this guy off of their team before training camp. I say that because Heatley was so unapologetic about, so steadfast in his decision. I went into today thinking there was a 60/40 chance that Heatley would be traded before the season started. I left that interview thinking that figure jumped to about 80/20.

Careful what you wish for, eh, guys?

But does doing everything equate to letting other teams fleece us because they know we're up against a brick wall?

At some point, Murray is going to have to decide if it's better to take a lesser offer and just get Heatley outta here in order to prevent any further damage he could do in the room if he remains a Senator.

That's a tough decision.

No, I don't think he's waited this long just to get fleeced. At the same time, tho', he may well have to settle for the kind of offer EDM made, tho' -- one good, desirable young player; one burden; one good prospect.

We are not going to get full value no matter what, now; that's been true since the day the news leaked, although I confess I didn't see it that way at the time.

I've been wondering if it wouldn't be worth it to trade him for some prospects and then use the money to sign 3 or 4 FA. Same as a trade, only Murray gets to really pick (albeit from a slightly smaller pool now) who he wants. Might take some of the teams who need salary to come back out of the running, but still... in essence, you could get tanguay, comrie, bergeron and 3 prospects for heatley. If you can sign them for a year, then you've got a great team this year and then plenty of room next year to sign some guys and have some stellar rookies waiting in the wings

i think the interview pretty much highligted that he's in it for his stats(plying time) and not for the team. i say we trade him for what BM thinks is right. in all fairness, he'll give his effort if he's in ottawa cuz it's an olympic year and that might be what's best for us at this time.

that interview was a waste of time, so i hope i don't have to hear anymore out of "Dany".

Dawg's Wife wrote:Imagine this...

First home game, Danny sets up in his traditional office and snipes a beautiful shot over DiPietro's shoulder. Suddenly there is total silence in the crowd. No "The Heat is on" music playing, no one cheering. Just total slience. Stu announces the goal, puck is dropped and then the crowd gets engaged again.

That would be totally awesome and send a huge message.

Or, better yet. Stu announces:

The Senators' goal, scored by number 15, Dany ...

And in response the crowd chants "Arsehole!"

Bryan Murray held a conf call after... here are links to the audio...

http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_01.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_02.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_03.mp3

Can't seem to find a web page describing it...

So, he just came out and said I do not think I should be held accountable by my employers. I would like to go to a team that lets me do whatever I want, lets me be the only leader, lets me pick how and where i play, treats me like I am the best player ever.

Lets compare

Danny Heatley
7 years in League
260 goals, 283 assists, 543 total points
2 trade requests, 0 Stanley Cups.

Wayne Gretzky
after 7 years in League
486 goals, 707 assisits, 1193 points
0 trade requests, 3 Stanley Cups.
Played for.......EDMONTON.

Ah Mr. Heatley go sit the f**k down and be embarassed

111519 wrote:So, he just came out and said I do not think I should be held accountable by my employers. I would like to go to a team that lets me do whatever I want, lets me be the only leader, lets me pick how and where i play, treats me like I am the best player ever.

Lets compare

Danny Heatley
7 years in League
260 goals, 283 assists, 543 total points
2 trade requests, 0 Stanley Cups.

Wayne Gretzky
after 7 years in League
486 goals, 707 assisits, 1193 points
0 trade requests, 3 Stanley Cups.
Played for.......EDMONTON.

Ah Mr. Heatley go sit the f**k down and be embarassed

Well done.
This speaks volumes - you can't buy class, even with the kind of money Heatley has stolen from Melnyk.

shabbs wrote:Bryan Murray held a conf call after... here are links to the audio...

http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_01.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_02.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_03.mp3

Can't seem to find a web page describing it...

Dude's not really happy being accused of leaking.

111519 wrote:So, he just came out and said I do not think I should be held accountable by my employers. I would like to go to a team that lets me do whatever I want, lets me be the only leader, lets me pick how and where i play, treats me like I am the best player ever.

Lets compare

Danny Heatley
7 years in League
260 goals, 283 assists, 543 total points
2 trade requests, 0 Stanley Cups.

Wayne Gretzky
after 7 years in League
486 goals, 707 assisits, 1193 points
0 trade requests, 3 Stanley Cups.
Played for.......EDMONTON.

Ah Mr. Heatley go sit the f**k down and be embarassed

:___: very well said.
now remind me if im wrong but gretsky asked to be traded to L.A no? i clearely remember him having something to do with it. and you know what? i'm sure he regreted it. imagine if we win the cup in ottawa within heatley's contract span and him out? where we previously had problems with his huge contract might send our way a good return, making us closer to contending.

shabbs wrote:Bryan Murray held a conf call after... here are links to the audio...

http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_01.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_02.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_03.mp3

Can't seem to find a web page describing it...

you have to respect BM for taking the time to talk to fans in this trying time.

edit: i guess it was reporters eh? meh...

I can'T see how, after hearing what BM hasto say, anyone can still like that balls sucker.

Flo The Action wrote:

shabbs wrote:Bryan Murray held a conf call after... here are links to the audio...

http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_01.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_02.mp3
http://senators.nhl.com/ext/090821_Bryan_Murray_03.mp3

Can't seem to find a web page describing it...

you have to respect BM for taking the time to talk to fans in this trying time.

edit: i guess it was reporters eh? meh...

BM seems to say that there's still 2 teams in on a trade. could it be more realistic that he means one? and that the other is fictional so that he gets team #1 to up the bet?

I just texted a person I've got to know through Dawg who works for ESPN. Asked him to see if he could arrange for whoever is in Calgary for the Team Canada camp, if they could work these questions into his pursuit of Danny Heatley.

See all the players are made available to the media and despite his thoughts, Danny has answered nothing and if nothing else has caused several other questions.


1. You stated that you didn't accept Edmonton because you wanted options. Are we to believe if Murray had come to you with a trade offer from one and only one of the teams on your list you still would have rejected it because you didn't have enough options?

2. You state that your saw your role with the team being diminished from when you signed the contract. Does that mean that then it's the fact that you are on the 2nd power play unit and your time on ice reduced by about 1-min to 30 seconds per night is the total reason. Doesn't that seem a little selfish?

3. Are you worried that due to your recent press conference and your demands to be moved because of a perceived reduced role on the senators, that the management team of Team Canada may not take you in case your role on the team is reduced in mid tournament and the possibility that you may ask to be let go?


Now sit back and grin

Murray is the best :^^^^:

DW, I think the answer is already pretty obvious for that 1st question. Of course he would have accepted a deal to SJ even if it was the only option. And, of course, he won't say it.

marakh wrote:DW, I think the answer is already pretty obvious for that 1st question. Of course he would have accepted a deal to SJ even if it was the only option. And, of course, he won't say it.

Thing is, I think his role would even be more diminished on the Sharks. How quick would he ask for a trade.

I think it's clear, we can stop talking trade for him because he's going nowhere. From Murray's comments, he's already begun damage control on the team and intends to speak to Heatley and assure him his role will be one he can be happy with.

What an f'ing suck though.