Summer Dany Heatley hits

jamvan wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

Well you may be right.

But he's actually MET and spoken with several members of the Oilers organization but won't extend the same courtesy to the Sens. I'll bet the Oilers know more about his reasons for leaving then anyone in Ottawa.

It's like he's going out of his way to burn bridges in Ottawa right down to taking 4 million dollars of Melnyk's money that he doesn't deserve.

Heatley is

I don't know what to think anymore. He clearly doesn't want to go to Edmonton though, even if he has talked to them. I don't know...very strange situation. He keeps shafting Edmonton though, even after they met with him, he again refused the trade. It's really no skin off his back.

Actually he answered their phone call, unlike Alfie's!

It sounds like he's going to stay a Senator on all accounts.

Hiding and avoiding your captain doesn't sound like the best way to reintegrate yourself back into that locker room. I want to believe that he is holding out hope that he'll get a deal to one of HIS choices, not Murrays.

I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.

Zoolander wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.

It is mind boggling... he should have answered Alfie's call even if he just said things were complicated and he was not ready to talk about it. At least take his call for crying out loud.

shabbs wrote:

Zoolander wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.

It is mind boggling... he should have answered Alfie's call even if he just said things were complicated and he was not ready to talk about it. At least take his call for crying out loud.

Why does it seem so simple to us? Is he really this stupid/self centred/indifferent to his teammates?

Zoolander wrote:
Hiding and avoiding your captain doesn't sound like the best way to reintegrate yourself back into that locker room. I want to believe that he is holding out hope that he'll get a deal to one of HIS choices, not Murrays.

Yeah I think he's holding out for another offer, the Oilers are his last resort that he is keeping on the back burner. If he didn't want to play for Edmonton then he would've told them a definate "no", nor would he have met with Lowe and Tambellini at his place. He's definately open to the idea.

The Oilers are hoping no other offer comes along so he'll come along and they'll hopefully win him over. I think they offered to trade him after 2 years if he's still unhappy there. If the Oilers genuinely thought he will never, ever play for them, they would have moved on as well, I don't think they are that desperate or stupid. It would have been nice to be a fly on the wall at that meeting

I like how The Alfie said that for Heatley to come back they would have to "work something out".

SeawaySensFan wrote:I like how The Alfie said that for Heatley to come back they would have to "work something out".

Heatley will basically have to apologize to everyone from Eugene Melnyk to the person that drives the Zamboni at SBP in order to mend some fences.

SensFan71 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I like how The Alfie said that for Heatley to come back they would have to "work something out".

Heatley will basically have to apologize to everyone from Eugene Melnyk to the person that drives the Zamboni at SBP in order to mend some fences.

I didn't get the feeling the apology would necessarily be accepted though. "Work something out" is not "this is a business... we all understand that... we can move on..." You know, the usual platitudes.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I like how The Alfie said that for Heatley to come back they would have to "work something out".

Heatley will basically have to apologize to everyone from Eugene Melnyk to the person that drives the Zamboni at SBP in order to mend some fences.

I didn't get the feeling the apology would necessarily be accepted though. "Work something out" is not "this is a business... we all understand that... we can move on..." You know, the usual platitudes.

that you would be 100% right on SSF, doesn't mean everyone has to listen of course, If heatley skips Spezz's wedding, he might as well not step foot in Ottawa ever again.

Zoolander wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.

Fear of the unknown.
Immaturity.
Lack of interpersonal skills.

Interestingly, these are all things that are common in "superstars" in any realm - whether hockey, other sports, or even business.

He would have been coddled since puberty, and even before. He's a star - he was treated like one. He's never had to deal with anything like this before, so he'll run away and hide, and hope it goes away. He hasn't matured beyond the level of an pre-teen because he hasn't had to.

In reality, I'd suggest that this isn't his fault, but rather his parents' (his mother's comments support that idea), his coaches', his handlers', and his agents'. They didn't let him mature.

Maybe Heatley doesn't get cell reception where he lives...

shabbs wrote:Maybe Heatley doesn't get cell reception where he lives...

Yeah, right.
That's it.

In that case, all is forgiven.

Guaranteed, he has no idea what to say to Alfie.

SpezDispenser wrote:Guaranteed, he has no idea what to say to Alfie.

How hard is it to find the right words?

"You are all correct - I f***ed up.

"I am deeply sorry, and I will make it up to you all, on and off the ice.

"I promise to make it up to the fans as well, as they were really good to me when they accepted me and helped me through a tough time in my life.

"I have learned a lot from this; I have grown, and I now know that I have a good thing in Ottawa. I have ruffled too many feathers, and now I will have to make amends, but I intend to do so because it is one of the best places in the league to play hockey in, and because I have always had great teammates, fans, and management behind me.

"From here on in, I promise that it will be about the team, not about Dany.

"Praise Alfie!"


OR

He could act like a five year old, sulk, stomp his feet, insist that he's right, and continue to be labeled an A-hole by Senator fans, teammates, management, other hockey fans, and the league in general.

(p.s. I'm willing to bet he chooses to do the latter.)

Acrobat wrote:

Zoolander wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.

Fear of the unknown.
Immaturity.
Lack of interpersonal skills.

Interestingly, these are all things that are common in "superstars" in any realm - whether hockey, other sports, or even business.

He would have been coddled since puberty, and even before. He's a star - he was treated like one. He's never had to deal with anything like this before, so he'll run away and hide, and hope it goes away. He hasn't matured beyond the level of an pre-teen because he hasn't had to.

In reality, I'd suggest that this isn't his fault, but rather his parents' (his mother's comments support that idea), his coaches', his handlers', and his agents'. They didn't let him mature.

'Scuse me if I don't cry Dany boy a river. Couldn't he have purchased some maturity, nurturing etc with some of the FOURTEEN MILLIONS DOLLARS he's made since last season began?

Again, like beedub's PTSD suggestion, I suppose it's a legimate reason, however, he is a grown man and immaturity just doesn't cut it. I had my first child as teenager. I wasn't ready. Dung happens, life goes on and you deal with life as it comes. I'd imagine that's quite a bit easier with a bank account stuffed with millions.

With all the psychobabble about what could potentially be wrong with Heatley, I definitely don't want this basketcase back. :^^^^:

That wasn't meant to excuse his behaviour, just provide an explanation, and comparators (i.e. many other "superstars" in the other major sports). As you say, it doesn't change the behaviour, nor does it make it any more palatable.

Acrobat wrote:That wasn't meant to excuse his behaviour, just provide an explanation, and comparators (i.e. many other "superstars" in the other major sports). As you say, it doesn't change the behaviour, nor does it make it any more palatable.

No I know what you mean. i just don't think his actions (or non-action) justify anyone defending him. Of course his mom did, but she has to as a parent. It's a giant FU to the fans, the team, the organization, the city and the league to do what he's done.

Can we agree he's just a jerkoff and leave it at that?