Summer Dany Heatley hits

Interesting Beedub. Until Heatley comes out of hiding, this is a viable option for his behavior.

That or he has Dung for brains.

SpezDispenser wrote:Interesting Beedub. Until Heatley comes out of hiding, this is a viable option for his behavior.

That or he has Dung for brains.

I'm not expert on PTSD, but he seemed pretty damn hunky dory between the time he arrived in Ottawa and the day he morphed into a hard C.

This is a guy who penned a book called Dynamite Dominant Dany Heatley. He's all about himself and nothing but.

Edit: I had the title incorrect. I think the sequel should be called Richard Cranium Dany Heatley.

SpezDispenser wrote:Interesting Beedub. Until Heatley comes out of hiding, this is a viable option for his behavior.

That or he has Dung for brains.

I will vote for the latter Bob, he has Dung for Brains.

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
They absolutely need to do something now. Sorry Edmonton, but I really don't think you're getting Dany, so you need to do something and quick.

With all the trouble he's caused in Ottawa, I think Heatley will pick "the lesser of two evils" and go to Edmonton.

I think he's stubbornly holding out thinking Murray can still land a deal with one of the teams on his list, unless there is serious ongoing talks with other teams him and his agents are privy to.

But once he gets it through his thick skull that it's not happening I think he'll go. I just can't see him coming back if he has any choice in the matter, it's even worse now as he probably blames BM and the Sens for not getting a trade done earlier (with the Rangers for example).

As for Edmonton, can't really blame them too much for desperately trying to improve their team.

To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

SpezDispenser wrote:

beedub wrote:I don't think Heatley will play at all this year. I think the effects of the car accident in Atlanta are wreaking havoc on his psyche right now, rendering him incapable of accepting criticism and having an overwhelming desire to completely avoid confrontation. PTSD can devastate a person

Really? 4 years later it rears it's ugly head?

I'm not disagreeing, what he went through must have been hell, but do you really think he's suffering from that?

I believe that it could be possible. Some war vets started they PTSD years and years after the fact. It can come at any time.

SensGirl11 wrote:

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
They absolutely need to do something now. Sorry Edmonton, but I really don't think you're getting Dany, so you need to do something and quick.

With all the trouble he's caused in Ottawa, I think Heatley will pick "the lesser of two evils" and go to Edmonton.

I think he's stubbornly holding out thinking Murray can still land a deal with one of the teams on his list, unless there is serious ongoing talks with other teams him and his agents are privy to.

But once he gets it through his thick skull that it's not happening I think he'll go. I just can't see him coming back if he has any choice in the matter, it's even worse now as he probably blames BM and the Sens for not getting a trade done earlier (with the Rangers for example).

As for Edmonton, can't really blame them too much for desperately trying to improve their team.

To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

We should tempt him to sleep with a reporter so his lady will demand he leave town. I'm thinking a Heatley sandwich between Garrioch and Brennan. You're welcome, in advance, for the lovely visual.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:I really hate these NTC's and NMC's. This won't be the last problem they have with these. They should be eliminated. Anyone is fair game, period.

Alfie? Volchenkov? These are the guys that actually deserve one. They want to raise their families here and not have to uproot them without having a say.

I can see the NTC, the NMC are ridiculous.

Volchenkov has one? Really? I had no idea.

Those guys are loyal though, I wouldn't be worried about them asking for a trade. Mind you, I might have said the same thing about Heatley...

SensGirl11 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:I really hate these NTC's and NMC's. This won't be the last problem they have with these. They should be eliminated. Anyone is fair game, period.

Alfie? Volchenkov? These are the guys that actually deserve one. They want to raise their families here and not have to uproot them without having a say.

I can see the NTC, the NMC are ridiculous.

Volchenkov has one? Really? I had no idea.

Those guys are loyal though, I wouldn't be worried about them asking for a trade. Mind you, I might have said the same thing about Heatley...

He doesn't I don't believe. I think the point was that if anyone should get one, Volchie should.

Zoolander wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Interesting Beedub. Until Heatley comes out of hiding, this is a viable option for his behavior.

That or he has Dung for brains.

I'm not expert on PTSD, but he seemed pretty damn hunky dory between the time he arrived in Ottawa and the day he morphed into a hard C.

This is a guy who penned a book called Dynamite Dominant Dany Heatley. He's all about himself and nothing but.

Edit: I had the title incorrect. I think the sequel should be called Richard Cranium Dany Heatley.

If people are heaping praise on you non-stop, your self-confidence and self-worth are at an all time high.

Think about it, if you accomplish something big and people are lauding you left right and center, do you not instantly feel better, on top of the world.

You're average person will be able to shrug off constructive critisim, learn from it in fact.

But you take someone suffering from a mental illness and that criticism all of a sudden is akin to someone beating you down with brass knuckles.

Take Chris Neil. Here is a guy when people boo at him, he eggs them on, almost taunting them. There is guy who can take criticism and scorn and feed from it.

Take Jason Spezza. Thank god for him that he can take criticism, otherwise he'd be a pile of mush in a hospital bed in some mental health facility for all the Dung he takes (I am the first to be critical of him)

beedub wrote:

Zoolander wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Interesting Beedub. Until Heatley comes out of hiding, this is a viable option for his behavior.

That or he has Dung for brains.

I'm not expert on PTSD, but he seemed pretty damn hunky dory between the time he arrived in Ottawa and the day he morphed into a hard C.

This is a guy who penned a book called Dynamite Dominant Dany Heatley. He's all about himself and nothing but.

Edit: I had the title incorrect. I think the sequel should be called Richard Cranium Dany Heatley.

If people are heaping praise on you non-stop, your self-confidence and self-worth are at an all time high.

Think about it, if you accomplish something big and people are lauding you left right and center, do you not instantly feel better, on top of the world.

You're average person will be able to shrug off constructive critisim, learn from it in fact.

But you take someone suffering from a mental illness and that criticism all of a sudden is akin to someone beating you down with brass knuckles.

Take Chris Neil. Here is a guy when people boo at him, he eggs them on, almost taunting them. There is guy who can take criticism and scorn and feed from it.

Take Jason Spezza. Thank god for him that he can take criticism, otherwise he'd be a pile of mush in a hospital bed in some mental health facility for all the Dung he takes (I am the first to be critical of him)

What you are saying is quite possible no doubt. I just prefer to hate the guy and think he is selfish.

SensGirl11 wrote:
To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

Well you may be right.

But he's actually MET and spoken with several members of the Oilers organization but won't extend the same courtesy to the Sens. I'll bet the Oilers know more about his reasons for leaving then anyone in Ottawa.

It's like he's going out of his way to burn bridges in Ottawa right down to taking 4 million dollars of Melnyk's money that he doesn't deserve.

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

Well you may be right.

But he's actually MET and spoken with several members of the Oilers organization but won't extend the same courtesy to the Sens. I'll bet the Oilers know more about his reasons for leaving then anyone in Ottawa.

It's like he's going out of his way to burn bridges in Ottawa right down to taking 4 million dollars of Melnyk's money that he doesn't deserve.

Heatley is

I don't know what to think anymore. He clearly doesn't want to go to Edmonton though, even if he has talked to them. I don't know...very strange situation. He keeps shafting Edmonton though, even after they met with him, he again refused the trade. It's really no skin off his back.

Zoolander wrote:
He doesn't I don't believe. I think the point was that if anyone should get one, Volchie should.

This is what I meant indeed.

SensGirl11 wrote:

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

Well you may be right.

But he's actually MET and spoken with several members of the Oilers organization but won't extend the same courtesy to the Sens. I'll bet the Oilers know more about his reasons for leaving then anyone in Ottawa.

It's like he's going out of his way to burn bridges in Ottawa right down to taking 4 million dollars of Melnyk's money that he doesn't deserve.

Heatley is

I don't know what to think anymore. He clearly doesn't want to go to Edmonton though, even if he has talked to them. I don't know...very strange situation. He keeps shafting Edmonton though, even after they met with him, he again refused the trade. It's really no skin off his back.

Actually he answered their phone call, unlike Alfie's!

It sounds like he's going to stay a Senator on all accounts.

He better be amazing here next year - or he'll feel the wrath of Sens fans - big time.

jamvan wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:

Hoags wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:
To be honest with you, I think this is the lesser of two evils to him. To stay here. Even after all the crap he started here. I'm sure his fiancée is even more against going to Edmonton than staying here, and he might feel the same way.

Way to go Dany!

Well you may be right.

But he's actually MET and spoken with several members of the Oilers organization but won't extend the same courtesy to the Sens. I'll bet the Oilers know more about his reasons for leaving then anyone in Ottawa.

It's like he's going out of his way to burn bridges in Ottawa right down to taking 4 million dollars of Melnyk's money that he doesn't deserve.

Heatley is

I don't know what to think anymore. He clearly doesn't want to go to Edmonton though, even if he has talked to them. I don't know...very strange situation. He keeps shafting Edmonton though, even after they met with him, he again refused the trade. It's really no skin off his back.

Actually he answered their phone call, unlike Alfie's!

It sounds like he's going to stay a Senator on all accounts.

Hiding and avoiding your captain doesn't sound like the best way to reintegrate yourself back into that locker room. I want to believe that he is holding out hope that he'll get a deal to one of HIS choices, not Murrays.

I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

SeawaySensFan wrote:I see myself a little in this situation. I've caused my share of Dung in the past and my way of dealing with it would be to just hide. I would genuinely regret what I'd done and would have preferred to apologize or make it right, but I just didn't have the tools to pull it off.

Who knows?

How can you not pick up the captain's call though? It's just mind boggling. Even just communicating your reasons to the players would go a long, long way way to bridging the gap. He's a grown man for god sakes. He should know that the ostrich technique doesn't work.