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346Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:14 am

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Acrobat wrote:Just checked - he's calling it Filatov, Brassard, plus maybe Huselius.

His wording seems to suggest that he doesn't have a clue (like always but maybe a little more honest this time). He is pretty much just throwing names out.

Possible players that could be heading to Ottawa include Filotov, Brassard, and Huselius

For Eklund he is being surprisingly non committal about rumours. Regardless, I am sure it is still BS.

347Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:16 am

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dennycrane wrote:If Heatley won't go to Edmonton, then their offer is irrelevant as a comparable.

Take what you can and move on. If Heatley does go to Columbus, the Sens will get an extra gate of 500-600K for a Columbus game. A slight easing of the pain for Eugene Melnyk.

I disagree, the offer is still very relevant. It is still the only deal on the table that Murray has deemed acceptable. It does set the market even if it represents a deal that will never come to fruition.

348Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:05 am

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marakh wrote:Do you guys really think Columbus will give theri 2 best young players for Heatley when the competition's offer is Cogliano and Penner? :KJK:

hell no, GM's will keep trying to low ball Murray on this until Murray decides to accept or just tells all GM's to go away and we are keeping him.

349Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:18 am

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I do like the idea that Kovalev can step into Heatley's roll and fill his minutes if Heatley sulks. Kovy can take his PP minutes and his first line minutes whether Heatley's stuck here or he's moved.


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350Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:27 am

SensFan71


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according to capgeek.com (you have me addicted Rooney, darn you :^^^^: ) The Sens are over the cap by about a million and a half

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=23

So Heatley will have to move or another minor deal will have to be made to get back under the cap, when's the deadline for that? training camp or the start of the season?

351Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:13 am

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SensFan71 wrote:according to capgeek.com (you have me addicted Rooney, darn you :^^^^: ) The Sens are over the cap by about a million and a half

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=23

So Heatley will have to move or another minor deal will have to be made to get back under the cap, when's the deadline for that? training camp or the start of the season?

It's being discussed to death in at least one other thread. I think we are closer to $2M over. Add $1.5M for injury call ups and we need to clear $3.5M. The there's Elliot (Auld would have to be moved) and potentially Karlsson ($1.3?). We need to move Smith, Auld and clear another $3M; more if Murray wants *another* top-six (last year we had Foligno and Shannon on the second line -- they really should be playing third line). Trading Heatley and only taking back $4-5M in cap should about do it. Unless Wiercioch also makes the team, then we move Lee somewhere.

352Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:15 am

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wprager wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:according to capgeek.com (you have me addicted Rooney, darn you :^^^^: ) The Sens are over the cap by about a million and a half

http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=23

So Heatley will have to move or another minor deal will have to be made to get back under the cap, when's the deadline for that? training camp or the start of the season?

It's being discussed to death in at least one other thread. I think we are closer to $2M over. Add $1.5M for injury call ups and we need to clear $3.5M. The there's Elliot (Auld would have to be moved) and potentially Karlsson ($1.3?). We need to move Smith, Auld and clear another $3M; more if Murray wants *another* top-six (last year we had Foligno and Shannon on the second line -- they really should be playing third line). Trading Heatley and only taking back $4-5M in cap should about do it. Unless Wiercioch also makes the team, then we move Lee somewhere.

Brian Murray will be able to do it though, it pretty much rules out SJ though as a trading partner if they want to send Marleau back, unless we include more salary going the other way.

353Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:19 am

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playing with capgeek.com, if we did this for a deal, Marleau and Clowe to the Sens for Heatley, Smith, Schubert and Auld, it would work (not saying the Sharks would even consider that offer though, their GM is not Mike Milbury)

354Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:22 am

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San Jose could still be involved but they'd have to clear cap space with someone else first. No way we can take extra salary back now. Perhaps Murray knows something about Smith he isn't telling? Just speculating here. That alone takes care of 2.6M, then move Heatley and only take back 5M and you've cleared just over 5M in cap space. You'd still have to move Auld just to make room for Elliott though. You'd also have a bit of money to go out and get Big Bert.


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355Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:24 am

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Senschirp claims the Jackets are coming after Heatley.

356Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:27 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Senschirp claims the Jackets are coming after Heatley.

It makes sense. They want a guy who can play with Nash and he's shown he can be great with him in international competition.

Whether it happens and whether it's a deal Murray likes or us as fans like is another story. Add to that the fact the Ek has talked about it and it kills it right there.


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357Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:30 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Senschirp claims the Jackets are coming after Heatley.

It makes sense. They want a guy who can play with Nash and he's shown he can be great with him in international competition.

Whether it happens and whether it's a deal Murray likes or us as fans like is another story. Add to that the fact the Ek has talked about it and it kills it right there.

With elements like Brassard, Filatov and Russell potentially available, I think we could learn to like it a lot.

358Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:44 am

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the jackets trade would work almost numbers wise when it comes again to using capgeek.com

To Ottawa
Filatov 845,833 cap hit
Brassard 821,666 cap hit
Huselius 4.750,000 cap hit

To Columbus

Heatley 7,500,000 cap hit

which brings us down to just around 400,000 over.

359Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:53 am

SeawaySensFan

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SensFan71 wrote:the jackets trade would work almost numbers wise when it comes again to using capgeek.com

To Ottawa
Filatov 845,833 2.225 cap hit
Brassard 821,666 1.247 cap hit
Huselius 4.750,000 cap hit

To Columbus

Heatley 7,500,000 cap hit

which brings us down to just around 400,000 over.

I'd hate to have to take Huselius back. Maybe Modin, who only has a year left on his deal?

360Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:00 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
SensFan71 wrote:the jackets trade would work almost numbers wise when it comes again to using capgeek.com

To Ottawa
Filatov 845,833 2.225 cap hit
Brassard 821,666 1.247 cap hit
Huselius 4.750,000 cap hit

To Columbus

Heatley 7,500,000 cap hit

which brings us down to just around 400,000 over.


I'd hate to have to take Huselius back. Maybe Modin, who only has a year left on his deal?

I guess capgeek isn't accurate then, ugh, we would be even more over then, would have to send Smith back, or substitute Huselius in favour of Modin, who has a 3.25 cap hit.

361Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:04 am

Cap'n Clutch

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Don't worry guys. I highly doubt they'd send us Both Filatov AND Brassard anyways.


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362Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:15 am

SensFan71


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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Don't worry guys. I highly doubt they'd send us Both Filatov AND Brassard anyways.

we can dream can we not? thinking of Nash and Heatley playing together could be just sick.

363Summer Dany Heatley hits - Page 24 Empty Re: Summer Dany Heatley hits Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:30 am

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And I think Hitch can handle his ego as well.


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