EJ Hradek and NHL Live Reporting Dany Heatley has requested a trade

wprager wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:wow, i'm a little late in the news. just got off Band practice after work and BAM! i can't read 28 pages at this late hour but i'll say this, from what i read i think N4L is right on the ball. i rather not see ottawa trade for another star(although the thought of lecavalier has crossed my mind, but tampa won't do it.). so i think murray should go for picks and prospects(lots of em)like N4L pointed out. with heatley off our books we'd have money to use on a UFA. my favourite becomes Jay Bo making Kuba expandable(and tradable?) but if we go on fowards, Hossa maybe cammi, i'd even take a chance on gaborik on a short 2 year contract.

as pissed off as i am that heatley would want this, i'm not surprised. his lazy performance last year coupled with this only goes to shows he's in it for his stats.

Maybe murray won't trade him and make him play in ottawa till somebody dangles a great offer..?

in any case goodbye MR heatley, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Band practice? What do you play?

Neely4Life wrote:

asq2 wrote:He underwhelmed me at the WJCs, though. Both he and Hickey, to be honest. The best d-man there for Canada was probably the one taken right before him.

I thought he was solid. No real mistakes, got in the other teams face. The WJC isnt exactly the North American game either where you can get away with the stuff he loves to do.

Tuebert will be a good pro, he's fearless and I think he would be an absolutely perfect player to pair with a guy like Karlsson or Wiercioch.

SpezDispenser wrote:http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/hockeycapital/archive/2009/06/09/fans-won-t-forgive-heatley-s-apparent-betrayal.aspx

Fans won't ever forgive Dany Heatley. Good article and diddling true.

PKC wrote:
Oh dear...that pea-brained pillock Melnyk better not get himself involved in any of the trade negotiations. Just let Murray do his job and sign in the appropriate spaces when asked to.

SpezDispenser wrote:http://communities.canada.com/ottawacitizen/blogs/hockeycapital/archive/2009/06/09/fans-won-t-forgive-heatley-s-apparent-betrayal.aspx

Fans won't ever forgive Dany Heatley. Good article and diddling true.

Urkie wrote:I'm beginning to believe that part of the reason Heatley has asked for a trade is because he has lost faith in management. You can't really blame him for that either since we've seen the team only regress the last 2 years. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Murray may be the bigger problem here. We've had 3 players in 2 years ask for trades and the team hasn't improved in the slightest since he took over. If he doesn't get good value for Heatley and then the team bombs it next year he is as good as gone I would think.

Mojo wrote:Who are the other guys that asked for a trade in the past 2 years? Meszaros? He didn't ask to be traded, he asked for a ridiculous amount of money, so Murray shipped his Donkey out of town. I guess Corvo is the other one. That has nothing to do with Murray. It has to do with the fact that Corvo got dragged over the coals on the media and wanted to go to a smaller American team with less media pressure.

If Heatley were to want to blame anyone about the decline of the Sens over the past two years, the first place he should start is by looking in the mirror.

Urkie wrote:

Mojo wrote:Who are the other guys that asked for a trade in the past 2 years? Meszaros? He didn't ask to be traded, he asked for a ridiculous amount of money, so Murray shipped his Donkey out of town. I guess Corvo is the other one. That has nothing to do with Murray. It has to do with the fact that Corvo got dragged over the coals on the media and wanted to go to a smaller American team with less media pressure.

If Heatley were to want to blame anyone about the decline of the Sens over the past two years, the first place he should start is by looking in the mirror.

Heatley, Corvo and Schaefer are the 3 guys I meant and he also publicly embarrased Redden at the trade deadline last year. Yeah, Redden was pretty bad but doing that kind of thing has never been the Ottawa way. Players don't like GM's like that either nor do they respect them.

The main thing is that Murray came here to improve the team but instead we've only gotten worse. People blame Muckler for turning this team into a 3 player team but it was Murray who gave them contracts and handcuffed himself from doing anything. If you don't question him even a little bit then you aren't paying attention.

Mojo wrote:Buddy, you just listed three guys who have no heart and can't handle the pressure of playing in a big hockey market, three guys who care more about themselves than about the team. You act like it is a bad thing for these guys to be leaving the locker room. And besides, Schaeffer first asked for a trade when Muckler was still GM, at the trade deadline in the year they went to the finals. Maybe you're the one that hasn't been paying attention.

Urkie wrote:

Mojo wrote:Who are the other guys that asked for a trade in the past 2 years? Meszaros? He didn't ask to be traded, he asked for a ridiculous amount of money, so Murray shipped his Donkey out of town. I guess Corvo is the other one. That has nothing to do with Murray. It has to do with the fact that Corvo got dragged over the coals on the media and wanted to go to a smaller American team with less media pressure.

If Heatley were to want to blame anyone about the decline of the Sens over the past two years, the first place he should start is by looking in the mirror.

Heatley, Corvo and Schaefer are the 3 guys I meant and he also publicly embarrased Redden at the trade deadline last year. Yeah, Redden was pretty bad but doing that kind of thing has never been the Ottawa way. Players don't like GM's like that either nor do they respect them.

The main thing is that Murray came here to improve the team but instead we've only gotten worse. People blame Muckler for turning this team into a 3 player team but it was Murray who gave them contracts and handcuffed himself from doing anything. If you don't question him even a little bit then you aren't paying attention.

Urkie wrote:

Mojo wrote:Buddy, you just listed three guys who have no heart and can't handle the pressure of playing in a big hockey market, three guys who care more about themselves than about the team. You act like it is a bad thing for these guys to be leaving the locker room. And besides, Schaeffer first asked for a trade when Muckler was still GM, at the trade deadline in the year they went to the finals. Maybe you're the one that hasn't been paying attention.

I think it's reasonable to question a GM that took the team from contender to bottom 5 over the span of about 2 years don't you think? That's what I have been paying attention to.

hemlock wrote:Agreed. I'd say that much like Sutter in Calgary, Murray is still living off the credit earned from the SCF run. He's made some questionable choices during his tenure as GM. Time will tell, but I hope to hell he doesn't botch this Heatley thing, as it will set the franchise back more than any of the moves he's made previously, or anything Muckler did (including the Havlat deal).

Urkie wrote:

hemlock wrote:Agreed. I'd say that much like Sutter in Calgary, Murray is still living off the credit earned from the SCF run. He's made some questionable choices during his tenure as GM. Time will tell, but I hope to hell he doesn't botch this Heatley thing, as it will set the franchise back more than any of the moves he's made previously, or anything Muckler did (including the Havlat deal).

That and the fact that he supposedly built the team that beat us.

In a cap world I suspected that giving out those big contracts to Spezza and Heatley might catch up to us one day and it did only quicker then I originally thought. Those 2 contracts prevented Murray from making any adjustments and from improving the team because he has always been just trying to make room. Those 2 contracts pretty much dictated every single move he's made as the Sens GM. You've gotta know how to manage the cap now and I don't think he did a very good job of it at least so far.