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Lagoon wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Give Lassi 2-3 years in the AHL before calling him a bust. He's had a bad start but it is what it is. He's a young d-man playing in a men's league.

i do agree dorion is an idiot. but he's had a pretty decent off-season so i will give him that.

Saying Dorion is having a good offseason an extreme coverup for his ineptness. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, he doesn’t know asset management, pro scouting, values or how he wants his roster to look from one second to the next.

Lagoon wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Give Lassi 2-3 years in the AHL before calling him a bust. He's had a bad start but it is what it is. He's a young d-man playing in a men's league.

i do agree dorion is an idiot. but he's had a pretty decent off-season so i will give him that.

Saying Dorion is having a good offseason an extreme coverup for his ineptness. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, he doesn’t know asset management, pro scouting, values or how he wants his roster to look from one second to the next.

Lagoon wrote:Great contract for Pulock and the Islanders. I don’t like that it didn’t take any of his UFA years, but only 5 million for Pulock is great. Now the hard part with their cap and getting Barzal under contract with not enough cap room.

PTFlea wrote:

Lagoon wrote:Great contract for Pulock and the Islanders. I don’t like that it didn’t take any of his UFA years, but only 5 million for Pulock is great. Now the hard part with their cap and getting Barzal under contract with not enough cap room.

Great for Pulock you mean?  Slides him right into UFA.  Now everything's on his terms.

Short sighted deal, but when you mismanage the cap, this is what happens.

Lagoon wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

Lagoon wrote:Great contract for Pulock and the Islanders. I don’t like that it didn’t take any of his UFA years, but only 5 million for Pulock is great. Now the hard part with their cap and getting Barzal under contract with not enough cap room.

Great for Pulock you mean?  Slides him right into UFA.  Now everything's on his terms.

Short sighted deal, but when you mismanage the cap, this is what happens.

I mentioned the UFA thing. Pulock is worth more than 5 million now, so yes great contract for both. Not a big deal anyway because they have a ton of guys going UFA when Pulock goes unrestricted. Boychuk will be retiring most likely and then you can pay for Puluck’s success on his next contract. Great deal for both.

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

Ev wrote:

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

I'm bullish on the Sens future but I think that would be a stretch. I do think they'll be playoff calibre in 2021-2022, just not one of the best teams yet. They have all the pieces in place now, for sure.

Lagoon wrote:

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

No pending UFA’s have ever re-upped mid season? I acknowledged the bad part of the contract in both my posts about it, but for 2 years, they got Pulock on a good contract to see if they want to spend more money on him if he takes over PP1 or if Dobson does it.

Ottawa 1 of the best teams in 2 years? Ok than. No 1C, they don’t grow on trees and they didn’t want to address it at this years draft. Good luck trading for one with unproven prospects. We might take Räty or Johnson this year but they won’t be ready the following year. It would actually be hilarious if we took a worse C in the 2021 draft and pass on one of the many elite D. Two wrongs don’t make a right Dorion.

Unless of course you have a very broad definition for “one of the best teams” meaning potentially squeaking into the playoffs without a 1C in 2022.

PTFlea wrote:

Ev wrote:

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

I'm bullish on the Sens future but I think that would be a stretch. I do think they'll be playoff calibre in 2021-2022, just not one of the best teams yet. They have all the pieces in place now, for sure.

Perhaps 3 years, yeah.  Depends how the pieces develop now.

Lagoon wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

Ev wrote:

PTFlea wrote:That wasn't the point though, the point was the Isles led Pulock right into UFA dom.  His agent must be sitting there shaking his head.  They didn't even buy one year of UFA and now the Isles have lost all control.

For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.

I'm bullish on the Sens future but I think that would be a stretch. I do think they'll be playoff calibre in 2021-2022, just not one of the best teams yet. They have all the pieces in place now, for sure.

Perhaps 3 years, yeah.  Depends how the pieces develop now.

No. Two years. They are all can’t miss and one of our excess D will turn out to be the 1C we need. You are right.

PTFlea wrote:For the record, I disagree with most selections made from Round 3 on this year, but I STILL think Ottawa is primed to become one of the best teams in the league in about...2 years.  Disagree with that?  I don't see how.