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Lagoon wrote:

Ev wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:They could have gotten a better player for that 1st. I'd have sent Duclair there in a heartbeat and taken a cap hit back

I agree with that but maybe they did not want him.
I have a feeling that if Duclair doesn’t play too 6 minutes he might just disappear.
I still view him as a gamble.
Maybe the sens don’t want to trade him ️

Yeah, it is always a good idea to keep players like Duclair that require other talent to produce instead of players that drive possession and play by themselves like Stone, Karlsson, Pageau and Zibanejad.

yes cause it's totally one or the other...

It actually is with those players mentioned. Clear data on all of them. None of them are close to equal metrics. 4 drive play, one doesn’t.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Sounds like the Leafs are going hard after Pietrangelo in the off-season. So while they moved Kapanen's cap hit, Rodrigues is an RFA that made $2M last year, Mikheyev is an RFA, as are Gauthier, Dermott and Malgin.

They're likely going to lose Spezza, Clifford, Ceci, Barrie. Holl is due to make $2M up from $675K last season, and Muzzin is getting a raise. That right there is the equivalent of Kapanen's cap hit. They also only have 8 forwards signed next year, not including all their guys on ELC or two-ways like Robertson or Petan.

They have 6 dmen signed to one-way contracts already and need to qualify Dermott. So if they go after Pietrangelo and land him, they have Muzzin, Reilly, Pietrangelo, Sandin, Dermott, Rosen, Marincin, and Holl while Liljegren rots on the Marlies. I don't understand this team at all. They continue to go after big fish and while their depth suffers.

Ev wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

Ev wrote:

Lagoon wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:They could have gotten a better player for that 1st. I'd have sent Duclair there in a heartbeat and taken a cap hit back

I agree with that but maybe they did not want him.
I have a feeling that if Duclair doesn’t play too 6 minutes he might just disappear.
I still view him as a gamble.
Maybe the sens don’t want to trade him ️

Yeah, it is always a good idea to keep players like Duclair that require other talent to produce instead of players that drive possession and play by themselves like Stone, Karlsson, Pageau and Zibanejad.

yes cause it's totally one or the other...

It actually is with those players mentioned. Clear data on all of them. None of them are close to equal metrics. 4 drive play, one doesn’t.

Huh? That's not what I implied at all. I'm saying keeping Duclair or trading him has literally nothing to do with the previous players moved (you would ideally have both types of players). Completely different situations. They should definitely keep Duclair who is a cost controlled asset at the moment. He's one of our only skilled goal scorers and didn't really rely on other talent to produce this past season. He's not a star but will be putting the puck in the net a good amount.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:They should do their best to draft Askarov. Then I'll take the Leafs more seriously.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:They should do their best to draft Askarov. Then I'll take the Leafs more seriously.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I don't see a situation where Toronto starts the season with Nylander in their lineup or Andersen in net

Flo The Action wrote:no one talking about the yotes getting nabbed for a 2nd and 1st rounder?

i think that sends a clear message. it's what you expected to see and it's much worse than just a fine.