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Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I'm not sure I agree with that last point. They definitely need a rebuild but think they can get decent pieces for Pacioretty and Plekanec. Shaw will end up being a terrible contract. Gallagher they will keep along with Drouin. They should be going hard after Duchene.

Pacioretty would get them a lot. The best you can hope for plec is a 2nd rounder if he finds his form this year again but I doubt it.

Forget about duchene, what or who are they goIng to trade? That blue line is full of duds. Trade the one guy that is ok in petry? Weber is too old and the habs would sabotage their chances. I doubt anyone picks up the phone when MB calls.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think it's the same concept with the impending Karlsson situation.

Say he signs an 8 x $13M contract. You get rid of the Burrows, Thompson, Pyatt contracts and another contract (Smith?) and it's a wash relative to what he is making now.

What would the fan base's reaction be if we trade Karlsson? You have to give him what he wants because someone else will give him what you don't.

This is why the Boro extension didn't make sense to me but that's a discussion for another day... haha

Flo The Action wrote:

wprager wrote:So Karlsson has been ruled out from this Western Canada swing.  He could return as early as next Tuesday against Vancouver.  Oduya hasn't been officially ruled out for Friday's game against Calgary but it sounds like he'd more realistically join the team in Edmonton, on Saturday.

My thinking -- if they win in Calgary they'll tell Johhny to stay back and enjoy his time off.   Get both him and Karlsson back on Tuesday to counter the effects of first home game after a road trip.

I don’t see us winning in Calgary.

Flo The Action wrote:So with Neil finding a new home less and less likely I feel like ottawa is missing a golden opportunity to transition to retirement (if that’s the way he choose to go) he’s given a lot to the org I feel they should still treat him as a member of the sens if he chooses to retire. Maybe that will still happen

tim1_2 wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:So with Neil finding a new home less and less likely I feel like ottawa is missing a golden opportunity to transition to retirement (if that’s the way he choose to go) he’s given a lot to the org I feel they should still treat him as a member of the sens if he chooses to retire. Maybe that will still happen

To be honest, I'm not sure what skills or value Neil could bring to the organization off the ice.  I doubt they want to pay him just to hang around as a figurehead, and I'm not sure how qualified he'd be to work in player development.

PTFlea wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:So with Neil finding a new home less and less likely I feel like ottawa is missing a golden opportunity to transition to retirement (if that’s the way he choose to go) he’s given a lot to the org I feel they should still treat him as a member of the sens if he chooses to retire. Maybe that will still happen

To be honest, I'm not sure what skills or value Neil could bring to the organization off the ice.  I doubt they want to pay him just to hang around as a figurehead, and I'm not sure how qualified he'd be to work in player development.

You don't think?  I think he'd be great at player development personally.

Flo The Action wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:So with Neil finding a new home less and less likely I feel like ottawa is missing a golden opportunity to transition to retirement (if that’s the way he choose to go) he’s given a lot to the org I feel they should still treat him as a member of the sens if he chooses to retire. Maybe that will still happen

To be honest, I'm not sure what skills or value Neil could bring to the organization off the ice.  I doubt they want to pay him just to hang around as a figurehead, and I'm not sure how qualified he'd be to work in player development.

You don't think?  I think he'd be great at player development personally.

Oh I don’t mean for him to work in player development. I just think he should retire a senator if he does retire. Make an event of it. He deserves it. Sign him to a one day contract. He’s given a lot to the org and he’s been faithful. I understand he’s losing out hope some team contacts him but this would be the logical move. Maybe give him the job of water boy after that so he can snarl at the other team as they skate by

wprager wrote: I was wrong.

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote: I was wrong.

I will frame this.

PTFlea wrote:Cap in 2 years (with the assumption that MacArthur is done)

Hoffman 5.187 - Turris 6.0* - Stone 6.5*
Dzingel 3.0* - Brassard 5.0* - Ryan 7.25
Smith 3.25 - Pageau 3.1 - Brown 0.894
4th line - 5 million total

Phaneuf 7.0 - Karlsson 12.5*
Chabot 0.863 - Ceci 4.0*
Boro 1.2 - Harpur/ELC 1.0

Anderson 4.75
Condon 2.4

TOTAL: 78.65

Hmmmm....