How do we fix the Senators

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:I'd rather pay Hoffman 6M than Eriksson.  I worry about giving term to a 31 year old forward.  

Eriksson is so good though, much more complete player than hoffman.  I know we want that goal scoring game breaking forward, but if we can parlay hoff into a top.pairing dman we're ahead imo

I'm not a huge Hoffman fan, I think he's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder and he has a bit of an attitude, and I honestly did not think Hoffman would repeat the success of his first year, much less improve on it in his sophomore season.  But what has this kid done other than everything asked of him?  Spent a long time in the AHL (smaller player, that broken collarbone probably didn't help), came up and played small minutes, little PP time, yet led the team (and all rookies) in goals.  He was 2nd among forwards with a +16 so he was not a defensive liability (remember couple years ago Ovechkin had 51 goals and was -35? that's not Hoffman).  

He is not a 100% perfect player, but he's not getting paid like one, either.  We have plenty of "scoring forwards" that come up with skill and flash but this is the only one in forever that's actually putting the puck in on a regular basis.  Why are we trying to run him out of town?

Ev wrote:With Turris back, and Methot, I think we're fixed.

Flo The Action wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:I'd rather pay Hoffman 6M than Eriksson.  I worry about giving term to a 31 year old forward.  

Eriksson is so good though, much more complete player than hoffman.  I know we want that goal scoring game breaking forward, but if we can parlay hoff into a top.pairing dman we're ahead imo

I'm not a huge Hoffman fan, I think he's got a bit of a chip on his shoulder and he has a bit of an attitude, and I honestly did not think Hoffman would repeat the success of his first year, much less improve on it in his sophomore season.  But what has this kid done other than everything asked of him?  Spent a long time in the AHL (smaller player, that broken collarbone probably didn't help), came up and played small minutes, little PP time, yet led the team (and all rookies) in goals.  He was 2nd among forwards with a +16 so he was not a defensive liability (remember couple years ago Ovechkin had 51 goals and was -35? that's not Hoffman).  

He is not a 100% perfect player, but he's not getting paid like one, either.  We have plenty of "scoring forwards" that come up with skill and flash but this is the only one in forever that's actually putting the puck in on a regular basis.  Why are we trying to run him out of town?

Oh and Neely and Ev say that " players in the locker room don't like him"

Whatev's

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:With Turris back, and Methot, I think we're fixed.

Better but far from fixed. We might win one here and there.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:Smith could get a late second I would imagine.  

That's being hopeful.

9 goals, 3 of them shorthanded and plus 5 on a team that is minus 22.   I wouldn't trade him for less.  

Make that 10 goals now, old friend.

SpezDispensed wrote:Id like to get Phaneuf.

SpezDispensed wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Id like to get Phaneuf.

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Id like to get Phaneuf.

This worries me if YOU thought it was a good idea!

Michallica wrote:SpezD!  WHy didn't you say you'd like to get shattenkirk or pietrangelo?????

This deal disturbs me because Phaneuf was pretty bad last Saturday.  And that contract could come back to bite us again.  

Michallica wrote:SpezD!  WHy didn't you say you'd like to get shattenkirk or pietrangelo?????

This deal disturbs me because Phaneuf was pretty bad last Saturday.  And that contract could come back to bite us again.  

SpezDispensed wrote:yeah, I did.  I asked for Shattenkirk.  Said I'd trade Hoffman to do it.

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:yeah, I did.  I asked for Shattenkirk.  Said I'd trade Hoffman to do it.

in the famous words of Mick Jagger. "You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes you just might find. You just might find. You get what you need"

let us hope this is what we needed.

wprager wrote:Sens fixed.  We can close this thread now.