Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015

SpezDispensed wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Ev wrote:willing to bet Gryba or Wiercioch will be a Penguin

Why would you trade Gryba?   Makes no sense to me.  

Crowded blue line?  You have Phillips (Retiring a Sen it looks like), Methot, Karlsson, Ceci, Cowen, Weircioch, Gryba and Boreweicki.

That doesn't even count the guys on the farm who'll need a spot in the not to distant future.

Crowded on the left side by mediocrity. Cowen or Wiercioch should go.   And Phillips.  

The Philler is already gone.

Oglethorpe wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

Vandelay wrote:If you think the Sens should be out spending money, under the premise that they have an internal cap, you're cheering for the wrong team.  If your preference is buying players over developing players, Toronto is a better option for you.

I would like the team to be able to add players when the right ones are available without worrying about the salaries.  This summer there will be talent available due to so many teams being in cap hell, it would be nice to get that veteran top 6 everyone seems to want so badly.

I imagine the team will have to spend close to $10 mil / yr just to keep Stone, Zibanejad, Hoffman, and maybe Condra, so if you're holding out for us to add a UFA... I dunno.

Ottawa has Zib, Chiasson, Pageau, Stone, Hoffman as RFA's this year with a couple of AHL'ers including Prince and Wideman as well. Like Rooney said, Ottawa is spending at least $10M to keep these players. Get over this "Ottawa is bad because they don't spend to the cap" BS. It's tiring and it's getting old.

I'm getting pretty sick of this debate. You want to cheer for a team that spends to the cap? Go cheer for Toronto.

Don't be stupid.  I don't want a team that spends to the cap for no reason.  As I have stated repeatedly, I would like Murray to have the ability to take on salary if the opportunity to improve the club comes along.  I hate that Murray won't be able to take advantage of the cap hell teams because of Melnyk's budget.

It depresses me to think that Sens fans have been fooled by Melnyk's "smart spending tour" into thinking that this market can't afford to be in the middle of the pack in salaries.

And it depresses me that people don't see the correlation between a young roster and lower salaries. That the 5th youngest team in the NHL is in the bottom 5 is spending should not only NOT be a surprise, it should be expected.

Again, I don't understand who or what we'd be adding. Overpaying UFAs? Stupid. Adding rentals by giving up assets for the short term? Stupid. The only thing I take away from this is that people are blaming BM for not getting other GMs to trade us good players on good contracts. Stupid old man!

Oglethorpe wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

Vandelay wrote:If you think the Sens should be out spending money, under the premise that they have an internal cap, you're cheering for the wrong team.  If your preference is buying players over developing players, Toronto is a better option for you.

I would like the team to be able to add players when the right ones are available without worrying about the salaries.  This summer there will be talent available due to so many teams being in cap hell, it would be nice to get that veteran top 6 everyone seems to want so badly.

I imagine the team will have to spend close to $10 mil / yr just to keep Stone, Zibanejad, Hoffman, and maybe Condra, so if you're holding out for us to add a UFA... I dunno.

Ottawa has Zib, Chiasson, Pageau, Stone, Hoffman as RFA's this year with a couple of AHL'ers including Prince and Wideman as well. Like Rooney said, Ottawa is spending at least $10M to keep these players. Get over this "Ottawa is bad because they don't spend to the cap" BS. It's tiring and it's getting old.

I'm getting pretty sick of this debate. You want to cheer for a team that spends to the cap? Go cheer for Toronto.

Don't be stupid.  I don't want a team that spends to the cap for no reason.  As I have stated repeatedly, I would like Murray to have the ability to take on salary if the opportunity to improve the club comes along.  I hate that Murray won't be able to take advantage of the cap hell teams because of Melnyk's budget.

It depresses me to think that Sens fans have been fooled by Melnyk's "smart spending tour" into thinking that this market can't afford to be in the middle of the pack in salaries.

It depresses me that you can't clearly see they WILL be in the middle and even higher in salaries for next season.

Smart spending is the way to go for a rebuilding team.

Once the team is closer they will take on more salary. Not hard to understand IMO

Good Ole Cory Conacher to Canucks.

Big time moves coming now. Leggio to AZ. Leopold to MIN. The BONANZA officially begins.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Ev wrote:willing to bet Gryba or Wiercioch will be a Penguin

Why would you trade Gryba?   Makes no sense to me.  

Crowded blue line?  You have Phillips (Retiring a Sen it looks like), Methot, Karlsson, Ceci, Cowen, Weircioch, Gryba and Boreweicki.

That doesn't even count the guys on the farm who'll need a spot in the not to distant future.

Crowded on the left side by mediocrity. Cowen or Wiercioch should go.   And Phillips.  

The Philler is already gone.

Yeah? To the IR you mean.

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Ev wrote:willing to bet Gryba or Wiercioch will be a Penguin

Why would you trade Gryba?   Makes no sense to me.  

Crowded blue line?  You have Phillips (Retiring a Sen it looks like), Methot, Karlsson, Ceci, Cowen, Weircioch, Gryba and Boreweicki.

That doesn't even count the guys on the farm who'll need a spot in the not to distant future.

Crowded on the left side by mediocrity. Cowen or Wiercioch should go.   And Phillips.  

The Philler is already gone.

Yeah?  To the IR you mean.

Sure.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Good Ole Cory Conacher to Canucks.

Sure to go down as the biggest deal of this years deadline!!!

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Good Ole Cory Conacher to Canucks.

Sure to go down as the biggest deal of this years deadline!!!

Just this years deadline?

The Jokinen experiment is over in Toronto, he's off to St-Louis

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Good Ole Cory Conacher to Canucks.

Sure to go down as the biggest deal of this years deadline!!!

Just this years deadline?

Patience old friend. Time will tell.

Hobiesens wrote:The Jokinen experiment is over in Toronto, he's off to St-Louis

Overhaul of TOR's leadership group, done -- culture change complete.

Dudline Day confirmed

Ev wrote:Dudline Day confirmed

What a fiasco!

Chris Stewart to MIN. Bullet. Dodged.

Oglethorpe wrote:Will they spend to keep their own, yes they will.  Will they spend more to add to the roster, no, not without the same amount going out either in that transaction or another.  

Ryan was not "their own", they went out and traded for him and salary in was a log more than salary out. True, that was after Alfie was gone but Ryan's salary at the time was more than they wanted to pay Alfie and more than he eventually received from the Wings.

In addition to Ryan, we also (recently) brought in MacArthur and Legwand, and we were going hard after Clarkson as well.

It's true that the Sens don't sign a lot a UFAs but given that they are the 4th most often mentioned city in limited-trade lists is that any wonder?

Ben "Reverend" Lovejoy back to PIT!!!!