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391Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:17 am

PTFlea


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Ev wrote:$6 million for Boychuk? Laugh1

What's so funny? You think it'll be more or less? Because...it looks to me like that dude is gonna get paid.

392Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:20 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:Nick Leddy 7 year extension.
Boychuk is prob next

$5.5 / 7 years for Leddy. Turrible. NYI is going to have to buy out like 3-4 players by 2017-18.
I think they look really well positioned moving forward.  Snow is doing a fantastic job.  

Yeah,

Grabovski, 5 years, 5 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Kulemin, 4 years, 4 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Leddy, 7 years, 5.5 mil per, on pace for maybe 35 points, mediocre at best in his own end
Halak, don't care what he's paid, not a #1 goalie

Great spot to be in.

Meanwhile, actual good players to be resigned this year and next:
Okposo
Boychuk
Nelson
Strome
Lee
(some might make a case for Grabner)

Envy of the league! $20 mil+ wrapped up in players you won't be able to give away, and lots of young good players to re-sign in short order.

Did I mention that Leddy just matched Tavares as the highest paid Islander? Laugh1


Is it 2019 already? Because that's when Leddy will be making as much as Tavares is making right now.

Well, if you want to get all technical on me that's cool... but Leddy and Tavares now have the exact same cap hit, so...

I guess we differ on the definition of "now" because Leddy and Tavares do not share the same salary, nor do they have the same cap hit.

393Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:28 am

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Tavares' value is around 8Million, no point in comparing his salary to Leddy's.

394Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:30 am

Ev

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SpezDispensed wrote:
Ev wrote:$6 million for Boychuk? Laugh1

What's so funny?  You think it'll be more or less?  Because...it looks to me like that dude is gonna get paid.

He'll get it - but it;s still Laugh1. One season where he's worth that (maybe).

395Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:32 am

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Friedman's 30 thoughts, in all its large font glory:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-flames-face-deadline-crossroads/

SJ might have interest in a goalie with term (HELLLLLLLLLO CRAIG ANDERSON).

396Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:36 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:Nick Leddy 7 year extension.
Boychuk is prob next

$5.5 / 7 years for Leddy. Turrible. NYI is going to have to buy out like 3-4 players by 2017-18.
I think they look really well positioned moving forward.  Snow is doing a fantastic job.  

Yeah,

Grabovski, 5 years, 5 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Kulemin, 4 years, 4 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Leddy, 7 years, 5.5 mil per, on pace for maybe 35 points, mediocre at best in his own end
Halak, don't care what he's paid, not a #1 goalie

Great spot to be in.

Meanwhile, actual good players to be resigned this year and next:
Okposo
Boychuk
Nelson
Strome
Lee
(some might make a case for Grabner)

Envy of the league! $20 mil+ wrapped up in players you won't be able to give away, and lots of young good players to re-sign in short order.

Did I mention that Leddy just matched Tavares as the highest paid Islander? Laugh1


Is it 2019 already? Because that's when Leddy will be making as much as Tavares is making right now.

Well, if you want to get all technical on me that's cool... but Leddy and Tavares now have the exact same cap hit, so...

I guess we differ on the definition of "now" because Leddy and Tavares do not share the same salary, nor do they have the same cap hit.

You got me there, Captain Literal... How about: Tavares and Leddy are each currently signed (signed!) to deals that carry the same cap hit. But keep playing the semantics game, I'm sure that will help negate the fact that the Leddy's deal puts him on par, cap wise, with the Islanders' best player and arguably a top-10 player in the league.

Laugh1

397Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:37 am

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The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

398Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:39 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:Nick Leddy 7 year extension.
Boychuk is prob next

$5.5 / 7 years for Leddy. Turrible. NYI is going to have to buy out like 3-4 players by 2017-18.
I think they look really well positioned moving forward.  Snow is doing a fantastic job.  

Yeah,

Grabovski, 5 years, 5 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Kulemin, 4 years, 4 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Leddy, 7 years, 5.5 mil per, on pace for maybe 35 points, mediocre at best in his own end
Halak, don't care what he's paid, not a #1 goalie

Great spot to be in.

Meanwhile, actual good players to be resigned this year and next:
Okposo
Boychuk
Nelson
Strome
Lee
(some might make a case for Grabner)

Envy of the league! $20 mil+ wrapped up in players you won't be able to give away, and lots of young good players to re-sign in short order.

Did I mention that Leddy just matched Tavares as the highest paid Islander? Laugh1


Is it 2019 already? Because that's when Leddy will be making as much as Tavares is making right now.

Well, if you want to get all technical on me that's cool... but Leddy and Tavares now have the exact same cap hit, so...

I guess we differ on the definition of "now" because Leddy and Tavares do not share the same salary, nor do they have the same cap hit.

You got me there, Captain Literal... How about: Tavares and Leddy are each currently signed (signed!) to deals that carry the same cap hit. But keep playing the semantics game, I'm sure that will help negate the fact that the Leddy's deal puts him on par, cap wise, with the Islanders' best player and arguably a top-10 player in the league.

Laugh1

5.5 is a bit much for Leddy but let's not kid ourselves, if we follow your logic nobody should make more than 6.5 MIllion in Ottawa for the next 5 years.

399Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:40 am

tim1_2

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LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think young goalies let in bad goals every now and then. It's just going to happen. Give Lehner the starter's role, and I think he gets in more of a groove, and the bad goals become less frequent.

400Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:42 am

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tim1_2 wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think young goalies let in bad goals every now and then.  It's just going to happen.  Give Lehner the starter's role, and I think he gets in more of a groove, and the bad goals become less frequent.  

Possibly but I don't think the Sens should gamble with that kind of thing right now. Let's not open unnecessary holes

401Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:43 am

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LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think Lehner's growth as a starter will shoot up quickly and significantly once Anderson is no longer looking over his shoulder personally. Look at how well he did each time Anderson is out for an extended period.


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402Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:48 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:Nick Leddy 7 year extension.
Boychuk is prob next

$5.5 / 7 years for Leddy. Turrible. NYI is going to have to buy out like 3-4 players by 2017-18.
I think they look really well positioned moving forward.  Snow is doing a fantastic job.  

Yeah,

Grabovski, 5 years, 5 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Kulemin, 4 years, 4 mil per, on pace for 30~ points
Leddy, 7 years, 5.5 mil per, on pace for maybe 35 points, mediocre at best in his own end
Halak, don't care what he's paid, not a #1 goalie

Great spot to be in.

Meanwhile, actual good players to be resigned this year and next:
Okposo
Boychuk
Nelson
Strome
Lee
(some might make a case for Grabner)

Envy of the league! $20 mil+ wrapped up in players you won't be able to give away, and lots of young good players to re-sign in short order.

Did I mention that Leddy just matched Tavares as the highest paid Islander? Laugh1


Is it 2019 already? Because that's when Leddy will be making as much as Tavares is making right now.

Well, if you want to get all technical on me that's cool... but Leddy and Tavares now have the exact same cap hit, so...

I guess we differ on the definition of "now" because Leddy and Tavares do not share the same salary, nor do they have the same cap hit.

You got me there, Captain Literal... How about: Tavares and Leddy are each currently signed (signed!) to deals that carry the same cap hit. But keep playing the semantics game, I'm sure that will help negate the fact that the Leddy's deal puts him on par, cap wise, with the Islanders' best player and arguably a top-10 player in the league.

Laugh1

Not semantics, Doc.

a)
rooneypoo wrote: Did I mention that Leddy just matched Tavares as the highest paid Islander? Laugh1

False.

b)
rooneypoo wrote: Well, if you want to get all technical on me that's cool... but Leddy and Tavares now have the exact same cap hit, so...

Also false.

Just accept that you are wrong, yet again.

403Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:53 am

tim1_2

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LeCaptain wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think young goalies let in bad goals every now and then.  It's just going to happen.  Give Lehner the starter's role, and I think he gets in more of a groove, and the bad goals become less frequent.  

Possibly but I don't think the Sens should gamble with that kind of thing right now. Let's not open unnecessary holes

Now would 100% be the right time...we're not a contender yet. Go with the young goalie; he develops with the rest of the guys.

404Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:59 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
LeCaptain wrote:The Sens shouldn't trade Anderson until Lehner stops allowing bad goals

I think Lehner's growth as a starter will shoot up quickly and significantly once Anderson is no longer looking over his shoulder personally.  Look at how well he did each time Anderson is out for an extended period.

If you're gonna hit the proverbial home run by trading Greg Anderson, there's no reason to wait even one more second.

405Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:10 am

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From what I saw Lehner is ready. He's ready like Carey price was ready when things got handed down to him. Will there be growing pains? Yes. But we are in a position to live with those. You get the right deal for Anderson, you make it.

406Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:13 am

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I have never seen a goalie trade returning anything significant. Like ever. If we can get a top 4D sign me the Diddle up, but I highly doubt it.

407Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:15 am

PTFlea

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We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO. It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think. We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.

408Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 27 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:02 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:We're not in a position to have Lehner have a sub par year next year though IMO.  It all depends on what the offers for Anderson,but next year Ottawa will be expected to make the playoffs, I think.  We've shown a lot of improvement and depending on what Murray does in the off-season with acquiring a sniper and perhaps another top 4 D-man we should be in the mix for a wild card at least.  
The payroll has to come down by 8-10M between now and next October depending on the deals for our RFAs. Tough to add in that environment. Expect a goalie, Cowen/Wiercioch and Greening to be gone along with Legwand if Phillips doesn't retire.

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