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271Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:48 am

PTFlea


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Haha, that would be hilarious.

272Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:50 am

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
NEELY wrote:

Wiercoich, Cowen, Claeson, Borowiecki, Englund, Harpur, they all have 1 things in common. Right now none of them are top 4 NHL d men.  People value potential way too much vs a sure thing.

All true except the part where you left Ceci off your list of non-Top 4-NHL d men.

Ceci is on the right side, and we're set there.  It's the left side where we have issues.

How are we set on the right side when you have Ceci, an AHLer, on the right side in your Top 4?

If only he were 35 years old, then he'd be a top 4 Dman, no doubt.

No, but with patience, developing in the AHL where he belongs, we can patiently wait for that day to come. Patience, friend. Patience.

There's nothing left for Ceci to do or learn in the minors. The guy is 100% ready this year, and the year before that. You hold a guy in the minors until he pushes his way on your roster and you can't send him back. Ceci did just that about 100 NHL games ago.

Ceci got a free pass into the nhl on a shallow d and a cheap salary. He didn't push his way on.

We probably should have paid $4mil/yr for a 35-year-old to do the exact same job and perform at the exact same (or lesser) level, true.

False. But I'm not surprised that you would be in favour of such a move.

273Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:01 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
NEELY wrote:

Wiercoich, Cowen, Claeson, Borowiecki, Englund, Harpur, they all have 1 things in common. Right now none of them are top 4 NHL d men.  People value potential way too much vs a sure thing.

All true except the part where you left Ceci off your list of non-Top 4-NHL d men.

Ceci is on the right side, and we're set there.  It's the left side where we have issues.

How are we set on the right side when you have Ceci, an AHLer, on the right side in your Top 4?

If only he were 35 years old, then he'd be a top 4 Dman, no doubt.

No, but with patience, developing in the AHL where he belongs, we can patiently wait for that day to come. Patience, friend. Patience.

There's nothing left for Ceci to do or learn in the minors. The guy is 100% ready this year, and the year before that. You hold a guy in the minors until he pushes his way on your roster and you can't send him back. Ceci did just that about 100 NHL games ago.

Ceci got a free pass into the nhl on a shallow d and a cheap salary. He didn't push his way on.

We probably should have paid $4mil/yr for a 35-year-old to do the exact same job and perform at the exact same (or lesser) level, true.

False. But I'm not surprised that you would be in favour of such a move.

Exactly. Young players, drafting and developing, that sh!t is for the birds. Find 'em old and pay 'em lots, that's my motto!

274Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:14 am

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NEELY wrote:If if they somehow defy all logic and odds and make the playoffs it would be with the guys they have there now, no point in adding unless it really makes sense for now and the future.  You don't give up an asset for a rental like Hemsky unless you plan to resign the guy for 3, 4, maybe 5 years and longer.

IMO if they are saving cap room and space for next season they should be blowing their load on Boychuk, nothing else... maybe Sekera is a better fit.
True, young guys will likely perform above expectations in order to make the team. Still I believe we fall short of the playoffs.

Boy hick would be awesome but if he doesn't resign wit the isles he might actually go to Edm. They will throw boat loads of money at him and he's from there.

275Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 12:50 pm

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I think we're closer to being a good playoff team than most think. It's been our younger, cheaper players that are performing. For this organization to get better, I agree, use the trade deadline as a way to add some players that we want here for a long-time or at least get whatever you can for our vets, free some cap room, and trade some assets in the off-season.

At this point Zib, Ryan, Karl, Stone, Hoffman, Turris, 1st rd pick are untouchable. If it means getting the best player back in a trade, I would entertain trades for everyone else on the roster if it meant adding someone to our future core.

276Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:04 pm

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I'm also interested in seeing how Hammond does in the next couple of games. Much tougher competition coming up but I am not sure we win against Mtl or Fla last night with Lehner in the net the way he's been playing this season

277Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 1:50 pm

PTFlea

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I think we're closer to being a good playoff team than most think. It's been our younger, cheaper players that are performing. For this organization to get better, I agree, use the trade deadline as a way to add some players that we want here for a long-time or at least get whatever you can for our vets, free some cap room, and trade some assets in the off-season.

At this point Zib, Ryan, Karl, Stone, Hoffman, Turris, 1st rd pick are untouchable. If it means getting the best player back in a trade, I would entertain trades for everyone else on the roster if it meant adding someone to our future core.

Yeah, the year Florida made the playoffs their vets all had good years to support the young players.

We're close imo

278Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:20 pm

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In the file of WTF: Pittsburgh might be interested in acquiring Jordan Stall from the Canes. 

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-penguins-staal-meet-again-1.213413

This might also be 100% crud.

279Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:38 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:In the file of WTF: Pittsburgh might be interested in acquiring Jordan Stall from the Canes. 

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-penguins-staal-meet-again-1.213413

This might also be 100% crud.

Malkin for both Staals. Book it.

280Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:42 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:In the file of WTF: Pittsburgh might be interested in acquiring Jordan Stall from the Canes. 

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-talk-penguins-staal-meet-again-1.213413

This might also be 100% crud.

"Salary-capped team looking to add under-performing C on impossibly ridiculous contract." Sounds about right. Laugh1

281Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:53 pm

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The writer typed in Rangers and it was auto corrected to Penguins.


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282Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:08 am

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The latest list of available players from Ottawa? Greening, Condra and Wiercioch. Slim pickins.

283Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:17 am

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I see a major windfall heading our way Wink


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284Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:27 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:I see a major windfall heading our way Wink

We have plenty of time before the next game to pick up some reinforcements via trade.

LET'S DO IT!!!!

285Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:30 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:The latest list of available players from Ottawa? Greening, Condra and Wiercioch. Slim pickins.

Jared "He will Eat Your Children" Cowen will get us more in a trade:

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286Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:44 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:I see a major windfall heading our way Wink

We have plenty of time before the next game to pick up some reinforcements via trade.

LET'S DO IT!!!!

Chances of an O' Ry Ry line coming to fruition more and more likely???? Ahhhhh!


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287Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:14 pm

SeawaySensFan

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:I see a major windfall heading our way Wink

We have plenty of time before the next game to pick up some reinforcements via trade.

LET'S DO IT!!!!

Chances of an O' Ry Ry line coming to fruition more and more likely???? Ahhhhh!

ROR is just hanging there on the lowest branch waiting to be picked by murry.

288Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 - Page 19 Empty Re: Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015 Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:42 pm

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Much like low hanging fruit?


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