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Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

wprager wrote:Wow, did not know this:

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

And that does not include Filatov since he wasn't drafted by Ottawa.  

wprager wrote:Wow, did not know this:

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

And that does not include Filatov since he wasn't drafted by Ottawa.  

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:Wow, did not know this:

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

And that does not include Filatov since he wasn't drafted by Ottawa.  

probably all Muckler picks

Most at least:

Zubov
Bashkirov
Megalinsky
Nikulin
Gimayev
Mirnov
Kaigorodov
Atyushov
Bochenski

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

wprager wrote:Some more interesting numbers.  I took a look at the stats of the Sens centers to compare last year to this year.  For last season they had Conacher and Grant listed as centers but I ignored their stats and went with just Spezza/Turris/Zibanejad/Smith/DaCosta/Pageau.

Goals per game went from 0.44 to 0.15 -- almost a 3x drop.  Points per game went from 0.86 to 0.39 -- more than a 2x drop.  Surely, though, with the improved goaltending the +/- will be better, right?  Especially with Spezza gone.  This year the centers are accumulating minuses at the rate of -0.12 per game, as compared to last year's 0.10 pace.

Way less offense down the middle.  Scary bad.  And the +/- is actually slightly worse, despite much better goalie performance.

SpezDispensed wrote:

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:Wow, did not know this:

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

And that does not include Filatov since he wasn't drafted by Ottawa.  

probably all Muckler picks

Most at least:

Zubov
Bashkirov
Megalinsky
Nikulin
Gimayev
Mirnov
Kaigorodov
Atyushov
Bochenski

That list hurts the eyes.  

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

It will come down to the development of individuals and the system overall.  You want to show progress through the year right now even if the wins are not there.  Losing out on the playoffs this year is not the worst thing in the world and IMO would probably be a better long term benefit with A) a better draft pick in a deep draft and B) a full off season for the younger guys to catch their breath again.  

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

It will come down to the development of individuals and the system overall.  You want to show progress through the year right now even if the wins are not there.  Losing out on the playoffs this year is not the worst thing in the world and IMO would probably be a better long term benefit with A) a better draft pick in a deep draft and B) a full off season for the younger guys to catch their breath again.  

I still don't think the playoffs are out of the question.  The rest of January, we have Colorado, Phoenix x2, Dallas x2, Toronto, The Rags, Carolina, and Montreal.  That's 9 games...I think we can go 7-2, which should get us pretty close to that last wild card spot. 

The schedule in Feb is pretty soft too, with the exception of the western road trip at the very end of that month.

Make it so.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

It will come down to the development of individuals and the system overall.  You want to show progress through the year right now even if the wins are not there.  Losing out on the playoffs this year is not the worst thing in the world and IMO would probably be a better long term benefit with A) a better draft pick in a deep draft and B) a full off season for the younger guys to catch their breath again.  

I still don't think the playoffs are out of the question.  The rest of January, we have Colorado, Phoenix x2, Dallas x2, Toronto, The Rags, Carolina, and Montreal.  That's 9 games...I think we can go 7-2, which should get us pretty close to that last wild card spot. 

The schedule in Feb is pretty soft too, with the exception of the western road trip at the very end of that month.

Make it so.

Gotta win one before they win 7.

Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:Wow, did not know this:

Slava Malamud ‏@SlavaMalamud 32m32 minutes ago

KHL's website pays a backhanded compliment to #Sens scouts, saying that there are more Ottawa draftees in the KHL than any other NHL team's.

And that does not include Filatov since he wasn't drafted by Ottawa.  

probably all Muckler picks

Most at least:

Zubov
Bashkirov
Megalinsky
Nikulin
Gimayev
Mirnov
Kaigorodov
Atyushov
Bochenski

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

SpezDispensed wrote:

wprager wrote:Some more interesting numbers.  I took a look at the stats of the Sens centers to compare last year to this year.  For last season they had Conacher and Grant listed as centers but I ignored their stats and went with just Spezza/Turris/Zibanejad/Smith/DaCosta/Pageau.

Goals per game went from 0.44 to 0.15 -- almost a 3x drop.  Points per game went from 0.86 to 0.39 -- more than a 2x drop.  Surely, though, with the improved goaltending the +/- will be better, right?  Especially with Spezza gone.  This year the centers are accumulating minuses at the rate of -0.12 per game, as compared to last year's 0.10 pace.

Way less offense down the middle.  Scary bad.  And the +/- is actually slightly worse, despite much better goalie performance.

Remember before this year started we said the season would hinge on Cowen and Zibanejad having bouncback years?  Well...one of them did...

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Not sure we can really use the stats under Cameron yet...not very many games played yet...as the cool kids like to say, "sample size".  That said, they seem to be playing a little better overall.

12 games.  Most people wanted to evaluate after 10 (and, yes, again after 20).