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dennycrane wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He hasn't declined, he just hasn't been able to completely develop because he's stuck behind a top 10 goalie in the league.  That's life, but as people have mentioned on here, this year is the last year where we have two number one goalies, it just doesn't work.

This summer - or potentially, this trade deadline - Anderson is traded and we take our shot with the guy who has won this organization its only championship.  Boo hoo for us, right?

Let's just hope we can get amazing value for Anderson though.

With Minny off the list, SJ starts to make sense. They are in a playoff spot but have reportedly been unhappy with Niemi for a while. I think Niemi is a UFA after this year, so taking him back for the rest of the year is no big deal.

SpezDispensed wrote:

NEELY wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

NEELY wrote:And if Murray is serious about a Ryan type deal, Lehner is a pretty obvious trade piece and I dislike saying that.

Let's not forget that the only thing we really gave up for Ryan was a 1st rd pick. Silfverberg is a top-nine forward who we sold 'high'. He's done virtually nothing since joining Anaheim. Noesen, right now and at the time of the trade, was nothing more than a prospect with injury problems. We got killed on the 1st since it was assumed our 1st rd pick would be a lot later (thinking we would make the playoffs with the Spezza-Ryan combo). I imagine any 'Ryan' type deal is either a 1st and a prospect, or a 2nd, prospect, and roster player. We also have to consider that Euge is about to buy out Greening and probably doesn't want to add salary without some going back the other way.

We have to assume ROR, Eberle, Boedker are on the Sens radar. Not really sure who else is willing to part with a top-six forward at this time a year.

Ottawa 1st (top five pick), Wiercioch, and Puempel probably gets the Eberle/ROR deal done. Not sure if I would do it.

 

I'll just say this... is Lehner worth Pitts 1st round pick this year?  I think that is a pretty solid trade off for both sides and a nice piece that Ottawa can deal at some point.  I think that's about as even value as you will find for Lehner.

Uh...a 25th OV pick for Lehner?  No thanks.  Also...didn't they trade that pick for Perron.  No, no , no.  Don't sell low on Lehner or we'll regret it as an org for the next decade.

dennycrane wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He hasn't declined, he just hasn't been able to completely develop because he's stuck behind a top 10 goalie in the league.  That's life, but as people have mentioned on here, this year is the last year where we have two number one goalies, it just doesn't work.

This summer - or potentially, this trade deadline - Anderson is traded and we take our shot with the guy who has won this organization its only championship.  Boo hoo for us, right?

Let's just hope we can get amazing value for Anderson though.

With Minny off the list, SJ starts to make sense. They are in a playoff spot but have reportedly been unhappy with Niemi for a while. I think Niemi is a UFA after this year, so taking him back for the rest of the year is no big deal.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He hasn't declined, he just hasn't been able to completely develop because he's stuck behind a top 10 goalie in the league.  That's life, but as people have mentioned on here, this year is the last year where we have two number one goalies, it just doesn't work.

This summer - or potentially, this trade deadline - Anderson is traded and we take our shot with the guy who has won this organization its only championship.  Boo hoo for us, right?

Let's just hope we can get amazing value for Anderson though.

Lehner has declined, not accepting that is just ignoring the obvious.  Even if you want to take the glass 1/2 full approach here the best thing you can say about him as a player at this point is he has stalled like you said.

I am the biggest Lehner fan in the world and believe the guy can be capable of being a star #1 but I won't ignore the current situation.  Everyone in the organization believes in Anderson and has a lot of reservations about Lehner.  The only thing so far that has stayed the same since MacLean was fired is the goalie situation and in fact I think Lehner has had even less time in the net with Cameron.  

Anderson is not going to be traded and I believe Lehner will be.