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Ottawa Senators (present and past) TIDBITS & QUICK HITS!

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TheAvatar wrote:
Wouldn't that be a good role for Cowen?

How good is his svenska?

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SeawaySensFan wrote:

Give Seesee a shot with "Karls". Why not?! Cheering

Right .... right.

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:The real big question that remains unanswered is this:  How is the latest Sens coach firing directly as a result of Jason "Coach killer" Spezza?

Easy.

Last season's results are largely responsible for the short leash MacLean had. Spezza didn't kill him but he was mostly dead, and there was no Miracle Max solution this year.

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wprager wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:

Give Seesee a shot with "Karls". Why not?! Cheering

Right .... right.

Glad you agree... glad you agree.

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tim1_2 wrote:Firing a guy with terminal cancer seems like a Melnyk sorta thing to do.

You're mistaking him for Clarke.

What Melnyk does is makes the guy a coach for a day. Which might actually work as Murray is the best coach the Sens have ever had.


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NEELY wrote:That's sad.  Melnyk is basically broke at this point and should not be owning a hockey team (himself).  I wonder if OSEG is going to make an effort to get involved here.

As "broke" as Melnyk might be, he still has 10 times more money than the "Jeff Hunt Group."

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Don't be so sure of that.

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:I'm not sure why you fire Murray now? For guessing wrong on Michalek and Greening basically. I thought everyone was thrilled with the return we got from the Spezza deal. What about picking up Ryan AND keeping him?

Phillips is filling a hole which no one has stepped up to fill for 2.5million which is peanuts in the NHL.  

What else is he supposed to do? Make a trade? YES. But... Ask yourself why a team with a ridiculous amount of cap space can't find a trade when there are plenty of teams close to the cap that are underachieving.

You don't 'fire' Murray. You relieve him of his duties to be with his family. That said, this team isn't stuggling because of players getting overpaid, their struggling because they have too many players under contract that are underachieving. Big difference there.

Trade Phillips, Wiercioch, Smith, Greening. You have prospects to add in to get picks/players back. We can take on salary, we can trade away prospects. Scratching two forwards and 1-2 d-men every night is such a poor use of resources and it's only stunting the development of our prospects by sending the message that they'll never play
You're making it sound like it's as easy as making trades in NHL14. you have to have a trade partner. right now most teams aren't interested in players we have, they'd want players none of us want traded. trust me that i'm sure murray would make a trade with prospects and NHLers like greening to improve the team if he could. there isn't many trades to be made in my opinion...

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It's nearly impossible to make a trade right now let alone for a 4th line guy who is owed almost 8 million dollars. Only way it happens is to take on a contract of a guy who is even paid more short term or a bad long term contract as well. You can waive Greening and it will be the same thing, no one will take him.

It's an awful contract no one wants to take, best thing you can do is move Condra maybe and try and make chicken salad out of chicken s*it with Greening.

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NEELY wrote:Don't be so sure of that.

If it was really about money they'd waive Michalek and Greening (Phillips too, but they aren't that desperate) and buy them out when (if?) they cleared. Then bring up Puempel and Robinson to take their places. Or even just Puempel (Robinson's NHL salary is actually quite high) and work with Smith/Condra taking Greening's place as needed.

Heck, if they need a 13th forward why not give Wiercioch a few rushes at practice. He couldn't do worse than Smith (3 points in closing in on 30 games!)


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NEELY wrote:It's nearly impossible to make a trade right now let alone for a 4th line guy who is owed almost 8 million dollars.  Only way it happens is to take on a contract of a guy who is even paid more short term or a bad long term contract as well.  You can waive Greening and it will be the same thing, no one will take him.

It's an awful contract no one wants to take, best thing you can do is move Condra maybe and try and make chicken salad out of chicken s*it with Greening.  
exactly. and every org thinks they have a condra in the minor just waiting to come up. if he gets moved it's at the deadline.

it sucks but the only moves are for our young players with undeveloped potential and that would be a big move, they are going to try and fleece us. this is the kind of moves you don't see happening right now either. our value since we're under-performing is really low.

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Anderson and Neil have value.

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Oglethorpe wrote:Anderson and Neil have value.  
yes and those a re two moves you make at the deadline. doing those now would signal the wrong thing to the team. if we were in the bottom 3 then ya maybe but we're 4 points from a playoff spot and giving up like that sends a terrible message to the players and the youth. unless it's to acquire a much better player that is.

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There you are; Anderson, Neil and Phillips for Eberle ... eheheh Smile (don't I wish) Smile

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Oglethorpe wrote:Anderson and Neil have value.  

And we value those values because they are valuable.


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NEELY wrote:
Guy has had 1 coach in the NHL basically, lol.  2 if you count Clouston so that's 2 in what?  6 years.  

That clown tweets back at me saying that the TSN Panel suggested the same (i.e. Karlsson being a coach killer) and that I should go and choke on meatballs. Guy's all class.


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Conacher cleared waivers. What a trade.


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