Jason Spezza - Trade Discussion

Fulcrum wrote:
I am really losing faith in Murray's ability to manage a roster. He can build a team....but he can't seem to keep them together for the time required to win....

Fulcrum wrote:Spezza has one year remaining and is every bit as injury prone as anyone...he is getting older which doesn't bode well for his back or his production.
Berglund seems fair....maybe with a second round pick, but I still don't see how Spezza fits into their system...he'll he didn't fit in our system, we all Wing Dang Doodle about his commitment here....St Louis will defend more.... Sharp seems right if Chicago REALLY wants a Center as he is older and has a similiar contract.
I want this done....this is embarrassing....to many screw ups with star players....we are going to be the next Edmonton where nobody will want to play.
I am really losing faith in Murray's ability to manage a roster. He can build a team....but he can't seem to keep them together for the time required to win....

Fulcrum wrote:No offence taken....my point paws completely missed.... Spezza is very over valued by the same fans that called him crap allyear long. You guys don't get it both ways. Dung player, we don't want him, but we need great return, you can't sit there and say he is more valuable than the guys being moved.....there is a reason nobody is paying for him. It's so frustrating to read some of these posts. It feels like I am reading about Toronto....
Reality.....We will get very little return for Spezza....we are not a cup contender.....we are barely a playoff team....we are still in the early part of a rebuild....we had one over achievement year....our 3rd and 4th line players are just not that good....I am a sens fan every bit as much as you guys but don't kid yourself about who we are....

M_Christopher wrote:

Fulcrum wrote:
I am really losing faith in Murray's ability to manage a roster. He can build a team....but he can't seem to keep them together for the time required to win....

I just want to remind everyone I said this about Murray a couple years back.

Murray is a builder, and the Sens need a GM that is a finisher and willing to make a bold move.

NEELY wrote:

M_Christopher wrote:

Fulcrum wrote:
I am really losing faith in Murray's ability to manage a roster. He can build a team....but he can't seem to keep them together for the time required to win....

I just want to remind everyone I said this about Murray a couple years back.

Murray is a builder, and the Sens need a GM that is a finisher and willing to make a bold move.

Yup, I am turning that corner from "Murray fan" to "his time is just about up".  The Ryan move was pretty bold though so credit there and we have yet to see what Spezza brings in.  We will have to see what the Sens look like with the dead weight and old guard almost all gone... could be something special, could be something awful, remains to be seen.

NEELY wrote:He doesn't know how to get a team over the top, never has.  Ryan move was bold but so was signing Federov in Anahiem but Murray would have never traded Federov had he still been there but that's the move that helped Anaheim get over the top.

Murray refuses to look at players he has marked as his own or been around long enough and move on from them.  He simply can't do it.

Fulcrum wrote:No offence taken....my point paws completely missed.... Spezza is very over valued by the same fans that called him crap allyear long. You guys don't get it both ways. Dung player, we don't want him, but we need great return, you can't sit there and say he is more valuable than the guys being moved.....there is a reason nobody is paying for him. It's so frustrating to read some of these posts. It feels like I am reading about Toronto....
Reality.....We will get very little return for Spezza....we are not a cup contender.....we are barely a playoff team....we are still in the early part of a rebuild....we had one over achievement year....our 3rd and 4th line players are just not that good....I am a sens fan every bit as much as you guys but don't kid yourself about who we are....

sandysensfan wrote:Greg Smith @Moved_To_Apathy
Jim Nill just confirmed the #Stars strong interest in Spezza. Said as long as a hockey deal can be made, he's interested.

Not sure who this guy is, but could be interesting if Dallas is indeed interested in Spezza and St Louis doesn't get Stastny.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Fulcrum wrote:No offence taken....my point paws completely missed.... Spezza is very over valued by the same fans that called him crap allyear long. You guys don't get it both ways. Dung player, we don't want him, but we need great return, you can't sit there and say he is more valuable than the guys being moved.....there is a reason nobody is paying for him. It's so frustrating to read some of these posts. It feels like I am reading about Toronto....
Reality.....We will get very little return for Spezza....we are not a cup contender.....we are barely a playoff team....we are still in the early part of a rebuild....we had one over achievement year....our 3rd and 4th line players are just not that good....I am a sens fan every bit as much as you guys but don't kid yourself about who we are....

My prediction of possibly getting Trivago Guy and a can of baked beans might have been shooting a little high, I take it?!?!?!