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5412014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:55 pm

PTFlea


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Oh boy...19 teams that can have Spezza for the right price. Look the Diddle out.  Ahhhhh! 

5422014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:05 pm

Ev


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It's a no-brainer to move him. NO-BRAINER. If this isn't done I'll be pissed.

5432014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:09 pm

PTFlea


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100% no brainer.

5442014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:12 pm

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He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.

5452014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:14 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
shabbs wrote:BooBoo:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/15/ottawa-senators-owner-prez-gm-offer-final-words-on-season

"The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success."

in other words having one of the smallest player development section in the NHL we'll say we'll invest there but since we don't have to show proof we really won't.
which also means with a lack of picks this year you can scout all you want, you're not drafting much.
Cussing Melnyk. no Dan Boyle that's for sure.

The only team in the entire NHL that doesn't have a media meal. Just shows how cheap they are when you add that to all the budget talk.
Even the Leafs would stop the media meal if Garrioch worked in TO.

5462014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:14 pm

SeawaySensFan

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
shabbs wrote:BooBoo:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/15/ottawa-senators-owner-prez-gm-offer-final-words-on-season

"The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success."

in other words having one of the smallest player development section in the NHL we'll say we'll invest there but since we don't have to show proof we really won't.
which also means with a lack of picks this year you can scout all you want, you're not drafting much.
Cussing Melnyk. no Dan Boyle that's for sure.

The only team in the entire NHL that doesn't have a media meal. Just shows how cheap they are when you add that to all the budget talk.
Even the Leafs would stop the media meal if Garrioch worked in TO.

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5472014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:16 pm

Hoags

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Flo The Action wrote:
shabbs wrote:BooBoo:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/15/ottawa-senators-owner-prez-gm-offer-final-words-on-season

"The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success."

in other words having one of the smallest player development section in the NHL we'll say we'll invest there but since we don't have to show proof we really won't.
which also means with a lack of picks this year you can scout all you want, you're not drafting much.
Cussing Melnyk. no Dan Boyle that's for sure.

$56-$57M is what the floor will be next year.

Ev wrote:It's a no-brainer to move him. NO-BRAINER. If this isn't done I'll be pissed.


I really think it's finally going to happen. Team will be so much better without him it's not funny.

5482014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:18 pm

shabbs

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Hoags wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
shabbs wrote:BooBoo:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/15/ottawa-senators-owner-prez-gm-offer-final-words-on-season

"The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success."

in other words having one of the smallest player development section in the NHL we'll say we'll invest there but since we don't have to show proof we really won't.
which also means with a lack of picks this year you can scout all you want, you're not drafting much.
Cussing Melnyk. no Dan Boyle that's for sure.

$56-$57M is what the floor will be next year.
The floor is expected to be $52M next year.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=438619

5492014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:20 pm

SeawaySensFan

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shabbs wrote:
Hoags wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
shabbs wrote:BooBoo:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2014/04/15/ottawa-senators-owner-prez-gm-offer-final-words-on-season

"The Senators will not be a cap team next year and the club will continue with an internal budget with $56-to-$57 million range. The club will continue to put money into drafting an developing to have success."

in other words having one of the smallest player development section in the NHL we'll say we'll invest there but since we don't have to show proof we really won't.
which also means with a lack of picks this year you can scout all you want, you're not drafting much.
Cussing Melnyk. no Dan Boyle that's for sure.

$56-$57M is what the floor will be next year.
The floor is expected to be $52M next year.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=438619

 Laugh1 Laughing3 

5502014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:20 pm

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wprager wrote:
NEELY wrote:I think they have to make a move with Spezza before the draft.  They will need to know whether or not to go out and sign a UFA that can help fill the offensive void, again I look at Stastny as the ideal player to come in and do that.  Ottawa has a great opportunity to add a good player or two this off season with the trade of Spezza, maybe Methot, and UFA.

MacArthur/Turris/Ryan
Berglund/Stastny/Stewart
Hoffman/Zibanejad/Stone
Greening/Smith/Neil
Condra/Da Costa

If Hoffman is traded I might be tempted to put Peumpel in there but he could use another year.  I think Condra also might be a guy that's moved for air.

Looking at that I don't see how that wouldn't be a better group of forwards than they had on Sunday.

That's a hell of an expensive 4th line.  As much as I like Greening, you can't pay a 4th liner $2.6M.   Didn't Murray mention that at the deadline the player asked for the most by other GMs was Greening?  If not for the cap floor, I think Greening would be on the move.  Heck, even *with* the floor issue, we need a player like Greening to play in the top six.  And if it's not Greening then they have to move him and get someone who can play that role on the 2nd line.

I don't even know what to say about Smith any more.  He's not done as much as he needs to the last couple of years.  Still a good player but I don't think he's progressed from 2 years ago.

Why the hell not? Should they also renegotiate Hoff and Stone's contracts because they're being underpaid to play on the 3rd line? You're being silly.

5512014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:25 pm

Hoags

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shabbs wrote:
$56-$57M is what the floor will be next year.
The floor is expected to be $52M next year.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=438619

You're right although the floor might even be lower since they're not expecting to hit a $71M cap anymore.

So much for being a mid range team.

5522014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:27 pm

Flo The Action

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NEELY wrote:He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.
montreal, columbus/pheonix, islanders?

5532014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:57 pm

SeawaySensFan

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I work at UPS and I saw a package for J. Spezza that was being re-directed to Denver. Not sure if that means anything.

5542014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:26 pm

sandysensfan


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SpezDispenser wrote:Let's say Berglund or someone similar and let's also say Stewart because Tim M. made it sound like they were closeish.

MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Stewart - Zibanejad - Ryan
Michalek - Berglund - Lazar
Greening - Smith - Neil
Condra

That's a forward core I could live with.

Apparently... rumours only... the asking price for Stewart by Tim Murray was Lazar. Now Tim will try to rob the Sens blind of their good prospects to get Stewart.. and since I can't get on capgeek today for some reason... is Stewart a UFA in the next year or two?

5552014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:33 pm

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NEELY wrote:He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.

Toronto?

5562014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:40 pm

Flo The Action

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sandysensfan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Let's say Berglund or someone similar and let's also say Stewart because Tim M. made it sound like they were closeish.

MacArthur - Turris - Stone
Stewart - Zibanejad - Ryan
Michalek - Berglund - Lazar
Greening - Smith - Neil
Condra

That's a forward core I could live with.

Apparently... rumours only... the asking price for Stewart by Tim Murray was Lazar.  Now Tim will try to rob the Sens blind of their good prospects to get Stewart.. and since I can't get on capgeek today for some reason... is Stewart a UFA in the next year or two?

where did that come from??? hahahahahahaha

i don't think Tim would of even bothered asking Brian that. he'd know the answer.

5572014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:41 pm

Flo The Action

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sandysensfan wrote:
NEELY wrote:He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.

Toronto?

depending on what jason wants. he is a toronto boy. probably wants a little less scrutiny for sure but he might want to play for the team he cheered for as a kid. that said i would not deal him to toronto.

5582014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk - Page 37 Empty Re: 2014 Ottawa Senators Off Season Talk Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:54 pm

spader

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sandysensfan wrote:
NEELY wrote:He has absolutely no control... who are the 10 teams?

Edmonton
Calgary
Winnipeg
Florida
Carolina
New Jersey
Nashville

Other 3?  No idea.  Either way this is a complete no brainer.

Toronto?

That would definitely surprise me. If he has some control, I'm sure he'd at least want the option of playing at home.

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