Trade Deadline BONANZA 2014

SpezDispenser wrote:
Cowen's been a massive disappointment for 75% of the year.  Is it a sophomore slump?  Who knows, but Murray might want to cash in at this point and call it a day with Cowen.

Cowen is probably feeling the pressure of his contract. He should have been signed to a short term bridge deal, if we didn't need to gamble on 2nd contracts. Instead he held out for big money like he's Drew Doughty but he's playing more like Boris Valabik.

Hoffman being traded wouldn't be a huge issue either.

Hoags wrote:AJ Jakubec ‏@AJonSports
Also hearing the Sabres asked for Mike Hoffman in any potential Stewart trade. #Sens #Sabres

NEELY wrote:If Ehrhoff is coming back then yah, I would imagine Cowen is going the other way but I don't believe that.

I wouldn't mind Erhoff.  The "cap recapture penalty" that comes with his cheat contract comes with wouldn't be a problem for the Sens since we will be living on Mars before we're a cap team again.

Recapture is on Buffalo, isn't it? I think it is.

Hoffman for Stewart is fair enough. Unfortunate after seeing Hoffman play yesterday, but fair.

Oglethorpe wrote:

NEELY wrote:I think if there is 1 player that is for sure going the other way it's Boroweicki

He is not in the BSens lineup tonight. Anyone know if he is injured?

He's hurt. Missed 3 games so far I believe. Lower body..

Eh I'd do Prince if he really wants out and Boro and a second or something for Stewart if we can re-sign him and let Michalek go, but certainly not our first in 2015 or Stone or anything like that. I really doubt we make the playoffs this year tbh and we won't go anywhere until we fix our defence and team defence. Ehrhoff could be a good acquisition in that regard (I haven't watched much of Buffalo) but not if he's gonna cost an arm and a leg.

With our budget and the team we've assembled we're so, so far from being a contender. I'm starting to get annoyed with some of the rhetoric from the Sens and I can't really tell what they're trying to do. Acquisitions like this are not gonna put us over the top. I feel in a way we've kind of cycled through that bubble team phase where we can't really compete but we're also not getting top-5 draft picks (not that we've done badly with our picks). Can't really complain too much about the last two year though, they've been fun.

No chance they deal their 1st in 2015 so you can rest easy.

You still need to bring guys in who have a unique skill set and say what you want guys who score 20 goals every year and put up 100 PIMS don't exactly come available all that often. Stewart fills an organizational need that the Sens do not have. Sens are soft and small up front and Stewart absolutely helps with this.

Ehrhoff is a move that makes sense as well but I doubt that happens. That's a guy that would be ideal to play with Karlsson.

At the end of the day they are still loaded down in Bingo with prospects, Lazar is on his way, and the Sens themselves still have Turris, Ryan, Karlsson, and Lehner to build a team around but they need support now.

I think the stage is set for 2 acquisitions at forward and one decent sized one on D.

Cowen's money could easily be moved, Michalek's will be gone, Anderson's is close to being gone, Greening will likely be gone soon. They can still build the foundation here.

Now the question is: is Stewart a piece of that foundation?

I'm not convinced Greening gets moved anytime soon, not sure he needs to be moved either.

NEELY wrote:No chance they deal their 1st in 2015 so you can rest easy.

You still need to bring guys in who have a unique skill set and say what you want guys who score 20 goals every year and put up 100 PIMS don't exactly come available all that often.  Stewart fills an organizational need that the Sens do not have.  Sens are soft and small up front and Stewart absolutely helps with this.

Ehrhoff is a move that makes sense as well but I doubt that happens.  That's a guy that would be ideal to play with Karlsson.  

At the end of the day they are still loaded down in Bingo with prospects, Lazar is on his way, and the Sens themselves still have Turris, Ryan, Karlsson, and Lehner to build a team around but they need support now.  

How physical is Stewart? I thought he was, but posters on HF are saying not at all.

NEELY wrote:I'm not convinced Greening gets moved anytime soon, not sure he needs to be moved either.

2.65 million for a checker is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much money. That role could go to literally ten Bingo prospects.

Reading all the comments on the internet reminds me so much of the Turris deal when it went down, hahaha. When will people ever get a clue?

Stewart the 3rd line 25-30 goal guy... haha right.

NEELY wrote:Reading all the comments on the internet reminds me so much of the Turris deal when it went down, hahaha.  When will people ever get a clue?

Stewart the 3rd line 25-30 goal guy... haha right.

Who says he's a 3rd line guy? Is he physical is the question? I don't think he's as physical as we all think.

Dude can go with anyone in the NHL and score 25-30 goals. Yah, not a guy you want on your team lol. People are so stupid.

2, 28 goal seasons and last year, LAST YEAR was on pace for 29-31 goals and he's only 26... those are basically top line winger numbers on most teams in the NHL.

so you guys think stewart will be dealt from Buffalo this season? i dunno... I think we'll be sellers my wednesday.

Flo The Action wrote:so you guys think stewart will be dealt from Buffalo this season? i dunno... I think we'll be sellers my wednesday.

Be sellers all they want fact of the matter is they need Stewart next year and about 5 years going forward so might as well get him now for prospects not a whole lot of other teams may touch.

I think with Stewart the question is with his consistency and competitiveness. Kind of the same question-marks as with Ryan but with a lesser pedigree. I don't have any problems with bringing him in at the right price, but he's not going to solve any major problems (like our team defence).

I just don't get what this team is trying to do. Are we a 2008 Detroit-style puck-possession team? Well we have Cowen, Gryba, Phillips and Methot playing while Wiercioch and Corvo sit in the press-box. Are we a punishing, defensive-oriented forechecking team? Well we play too run and gun a style, and we have guys like Turris, MacArthur (god bless 'em), Spezza, Conacher, etc. who can't really play that physical, Bruins-esque style.

It really seems to me like a random assembly of players. I get that you don't pass on talent when it's available, and you pick the BPA, but it kinda seems like they're just hoping Karlsson can create some offence and the rest of the blue-line can defend. Up front I don't know what they're really hoping for. There doesn't seem to be a "team" mentality or identity. It's frustrating for me as a fan because I can't really even contemplate the future when we're losing. What are we building? We have talented players, yeah, but as we saw last night with Karlsson you can get blown out even if some of your players are awesome.

But that's not something that gets fixed over-night or on dead-line day, so I guess I can't criticize what they do now either way.

Siza and toughness on the top 2 lines is 100% a problem in Ottawa and how more people are not talking about that as a major issue is beyond me.  Michalek, Spezza, Turris, Ryan, MacArthur... and whoever else combined they don't have as many fights in the NHL as Stewart does let alone what he brings year in and year out.  There are other issues for sure but IMO toughness, size, and grit up front is the most pressing issue for sure.  Stewart the exact definition of a power forward and this is usually the age they break out to another level as well... he has multiple 25 goals seasons already though.

Stanley Cup winners are usually pieces together to compliment the core.  LA went out and got Richards and Carter, Chicago made moves for Sharp and Eager, signed Campbell... you use assets you have overstock of to get players you have none of.  In Ottawa's case it's smaller skilled forwards.  

Yah Ottawa has an issue on the back end for sure and that's some experience and a LH on the PP on the point.  Not sure that can be fixed now but we'll see about that.

At the end of the day teams are built with a core then you surround that core.  Karlsson, Turris, Ryan, are that core and you can even add Lehner to that.  I'll also say this, Murray has been pretty good putting the right pieces in place since the rebuild started.

If I could pick the exact player I wanted it would be Zack Kassian but Stewart is basically what you need in Ottawa right now.