GAME DAY: San Jose Sharks @ Ottawa Senators :: 5:00pm ET :: Sun. Oct. 27th, 2013

Every loss turns into a blame-Michalek-and-Anderson-fest. Lots more wrong with this team. Actually the same as every year wrong with this team, weak PP, missing the net all the time, not enough legit top-6 players, depth lacking at D. The new wrinkle to all this is that passes are missing the mark in a big way more than I've seen in a long time.

Luckily, goaltending is fine and I think it would remain fine even if we were to trade Anderson as long as it's not to add "depth" and a pick. It would have to be to add some Top 6 help or a Top - 4 calibre D or else it's not worth doing.

Bet if it was spezza responsible for two straight GWGs for the opposition, certain ppl would have already ran him over the proverbial bus...numerous times. However the man with that distinction is none other than Erik Karlsson, who's Donkey ppl are still willing to kiss. Yes it's a team issue right now as the team just isn't ready to play the opposition, but call a spade a spade and karlsson has been atrocious defensively and been the direct cause of two straight GWGs. Unacceptable, don't care how well his offensive game seems to be coming back, last I checked he's a DEFENCEMAN.

Sens are also not prepared. Two home games this weekend with opposition playing 2nd of a back to back. To come away with 0 points is absolutely unacceptable. That's also 3 straight home games where sens have been down 2-0 in the first period. I'm not quick to give too much credit to the sharks and ducks....they're good teams but are the oilers a good team? Very disappointing, they had a giant letdown and got pretty cocky I bet after that detroit victory. Lesson learned, hopefully.....

Ev wrote:I am just salivating at how perfect Steve Ott would be. Grit, faceoffs, scorer. Everything.

ya one goal this season... i know Buff is horrendous this year but no way this deal happens. Michalek might get traded at the dealine.

Stats are irrelvant on that dump of a team. You can put Ott anywhere in the lineup, he creates space, and just annoys the other team. We don't have any players who the other team is afraid of playing right now.

Ev wrote:Stats are irrelvant on that dump of a team. You can put Ott anywhere in the lineup, he creates space, and just annoys the other team. We don't have any players who the other team is afraid of playing right now.

Other teams ARE afraid of our pressbox though, with big Kassian guarding it!

Michallica wrote:Bet if it was spezza responsible for two straight GWGs for the opposition, certain ppl would have already ran him over the proverbial bus...numerous times.  However the man with that distinction is none other than Erik Karlsson, who's Donkey ppl are still willing to kiss.  Yes it's a team issue right now as the team just isn't ready to play the opposition, but call a spade a spade and karlsson has been atrocious defensively and been the direct cause of two straight GWGs.  Unacceptable, don't care how well his offensive game seems to be coming back, last I checked he's a DEFENCEMAN.

Sens are also not prepared.  Two home games this weekend with opposition playing 2nd of a back to back.  To come away with 0 points is absolutely unacceptable.  That's also 3 straight home games where sens have been down 2-0 in the first period.  I'm not quick to give too much credit to the sharks and ducks....they're good teams but are the oilers a good team?  Very disappointing, they had a giant letdown and got pretty cocky I bet after that detroit victory.  Lesson learned, hopefully.....  

Didn't hear me say boo on Friday night about Spezza, did you? Other than he was ok, not his best, not his worst.

Also, I love how people say he's a DEFENSEMAN like the actual term defense dictates how that position is played. It's not soccer. Karlsson absolutely controlled the game in every aspect last night but sure, you want to put one of those goals on Karlsson last night do it... he doesn't play that game is probably 6 or 7 nothing, not 5-2. Use a legit argument instead of that weak line of thinking. He probably shouldn't rush the puck either.

Either way the way the games are going or should I say starting, a lot of it is on Anderson. Most teams don't have 4 games in a year where the goalie lets in the first shot of the game, Anderson has done that in a month. Tough game to play when you start each game down a goal.

Michalek was good last game, what was the problem? We played the best team in the league abd we haven't got our act together. People are overreacting.

Ott would be a fantastic piece in Ottawa, Ev is 100% correct. That's exactly the type of player missing on the 3rd line. A 15-20 goal scorer capable of playing center or wing while scoring dirty goals and being hell to play against. Don't think the Sens should give up what it would take to get him but he's exactly the type of player they need right now along with a top line winger and a more mobile RH D man who can be solid.

SeawaySensFan wrote:Every loss turns into a blame-Michalek-and-Anderson-fest. Lots more wrong with this team. Actually the same as every year wrong with this team, weak PP, missing the net all the time, not enough legit top-6 players, depth lacking at D. The new wrinkle to all this is that passes are missing the mark in a big way more than I've seen in a long time.

Luckily, goaltending is fine and I think it would remain fine even if we were to trade Anderson as long as it's not to add "depth" and a pick. It would have to be to add some Top 6 help or a Top - 4 calibre D or else it's not worth doing.

Anderson 10 games played... first shot goals = 4 games. Rest of the league combined... pretty sure it's less than 4.

NEELY wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Every loss turns into a blame-Michalek-and-Anderson-fest. Lots more wrong with this team. Actually the same as every year wrong with this team, weak PP, missing the net all the time, not enough legit top-6 players, depth lacking at D. The new wrinkle to all this is that passes are missing the mark in a big way more than I've seen in a long time.

Luckily, goaltending is fine and I think it would remain fine even if we were to trade Anderson as long as it's not to add "depth" and a pick. It would have to be to add some Top 6 help or a Top - 4 calibre D or else it's not worth doing.

Anderson 10 games played... first shot goals = 4 games. Rest of the league combined... pretty sure it's less than 4.

Funny to pin that solely on Anderson.

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Every loss turns into a blame-Michalek-and-Anderson-fest. Lots more wrong with this team. Actually the same as every year wrong with this team, weak PP, missing the net all the time, not enough legit top-6 players, depth lacking at D. The new wrinkle to all this is that passes are missing the mark in a big way more than I've seen in a long time.

Luckily, goaltending is fine and I think it would remain fine even if we were to trade Anderson as long as it's not to add "depth" and a pick. It would have to be to add some Top 6 help or a Top - 4 calibre D or else it's not worth doing.

Anderson 10 games played... first shot goals = 4 games.  Rest of the league combined... pretty sure it's less than 4.

Funny to pin that solely on Anderson.

I guess if the game was first goal wins? It's an issue for sure but there's a lot of game left to play after that.

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:Bet if it was spezza responsible for two straight GWGs for the opposition, certain ppl would have already ran him over the proverbial bus...numerous times.  However the man with that distinction is none other than Erik Karlsson, who's Donkey ppl are still willing to kiss.  Yes it's a team issue right now as the team just isn't ready to play the opposition, but call a spade a spade and karlsson has been atrocious defensively and been the direct cause of two straight GWGs.  Unacceptable, don't care how well his offensive game seems to be coming back, last I checked he's a DEFENCEMAN.

Sens are also not prepared.  Two home games this weekend with opposition playing 2nd of a back to back.  To come away with 0 points is absolutely unacceptable.  That's also 3 straight home games where sens have been down 2-0 in the first period.  I'm not quick to give too much credit to the sharks and ducks....they're good teams but are the oilers a good team?  Very disappointing, they had a giant letdown and got pretty cocky I bet after that detroit victory.  Lesson learned, hopefully.....  

Didn't hear me say boo on Friday night about Spezza, did you?  Other than he was ok, not his best, not his worst.  

Also, I love how people say he's a DEFENSEMAN like the actual term defense dictates how that position is played.  It's not soccer.  Karlsson absolutely controlled the game in every aspect last night but sure, you want to put one of those goals on Karlsson last night do it... he doesn't play that game is probably 6 or 7 nothing, not 5-2.  Use a legit argument instead of that weak line of thinking.  He probably shouldn't rush the puck either.  

Either way the way the games are going or should  I say starting, a lot of it is on Anderson.  Most teams don't have 4 games in a year where the goalie lets in the first shot of the game, Anderson has done that in a month.  Tough game to play when you start each game down a goal.  

The Donkey kissing is in full effect I see  

That's great that he controlled the play and all but that backcheck was fucking weak. What's the excuse for friday night? I didn't say much then but it's cut and dry, he's responsible for 2 straight GWGs. And why shouldn't I mention his position? Craig anderson is a goaltender, and when he doesn't make saves, I'm sure you'll complain about him. Spezza/michalek are forwards and when they're not scoring, I'm sure you'll complain about them. Karlsson is a defenceman and when he's not defending well, suddenly it's bad to complain about him. Good logic there  

No denying karlsson is a dynamic offensive defenseman. If he doesn't play the game, it's maybe the same score cuz he's just about helping the other team as much as he's helping his own team. And yes, anderson friggin' sucks this year. He was been atrocious to start games. Not wired in, just like the rest of the team. Really tough to win games when you're constantly down by 2 goals in the first period.

Sure is and the game is about 10 times harder playing from behind. Team that scores first wins what? 75% of the time or more? Anderson is on pace and may have already set the single season record for first shot goals on a goaltender through 1 month of the season. He's just an unprepared as the rest of the team and maybe more so because he's the damn goaltender, he needs to stop the puck early and give his team the best chance.

2nd and 3rd periods Anderson is usually lights out but he's letting in way too many goals early on in games and it's not something that can be debated.

NEELY wrote:Sure is and the game is about 10 times harder playing from behind. Team that scores first wins what? 75% of the time or more? Anderson is on pace and may have already set the single season record for first shot goals on a goaltender through 1 month of the season. He's just an unprepared as the rest of the team and maybe more so because he's the damn goaltender, he needs to stop the puck early and give his team the best chance.

2nd and 3rd periods Anderson is usually lights out but he's letting in way too many goals early on in games and it's not something that can be debated.

I think the issue is a team-wide slow start...not an Anderson slow start. Too many quality scoring chances are being given up early by the team.

Michallica wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Michallica wrote:Bet if it was spezza responsible for two straight GWGs for the opposition, certain ppl would have already ran him over the proverbial bus...numerous times.  However the man with that distinction is none other than Erik Karlsson, who's Donkey ppl are still willing to kiss.  Yes it's a team issue right now as the team just isn't ready to play the opposition, but call a spade a spade and karlsson has been atrocious defensively and been the direct cause of two straight GWGs.  Unacceptable, don't care how well his offensive game seems to be coming back, last I checked he's a DEFENCEMAN.

Sens are also not prepared.  Two home games this weekend with opposition playing 2nd of a back to back.  To come away with 0 points is absolutely unacceptable.  That's also 3 straight home games where sens have been down 2-0 in the first period.  I'm not quick to give too much credit to the sharks and ducks....they're good teams but are the oilers a good team?  Very disappointing, they had a giant letdown and got pretty cocky I bet after that detroit victory.  Lesson learned, hopefully.....  

Didn't hear me say boo on Friday night about Spezza, did you?  Other than he was ok, not his best, not his worst.  

Also, I love how people say he's a DEFENSEMAN like the actual term defense dictates how that position is played.  It's not soccer.  Karlsson absolutely controlled the game in every aspect last night but sure, you want to put one of those goals on Karlsson last night do it... he doesn't play that game is probably 6 or 7 nothing, not 5-2.  Use a legit argument instead of that weak line of thinking.  He probably shouldn't rush the puck either.  

Either way the way the games are going or should  I say starting, a lot of it is on Anderson.  Most teams don't have 4 games in a year where the goalie lets in the first shot of the game, Anderson has done that in a month.  Tough game to play when you start each game down a goal.  

The Donkey kissing is in full effect I see  

That's great that he controlled the play and all but that backcheck was Cussing weak.  What's the excuse for friday night?  I didn't say much then but it's cut and dry, he's responsible for 2 straight GWGs.  And why shouldn't I mention his position?  Craig anderson is a goaltender, and when he doesn't make saves, I'm sure you'll complain about him.  Spezza/michalek are forwards and when they're not scoring, I'm sure you'll complain about them.  Karlsson is a defenceman and when he's not defending well, suddenly it's bad to complain about him. Good logic there  

No denying karlsson is a dynamic offensive defenseman.  If he doesn't play the game, it's maybe the same score cuz he's just about helping the other team as much as he's helping his own team.  And yes, anderson friggin' sucks this year.  He was been atrocious to start games.  Not wired in, just like the rest of the team.  Really tough to win games when you're constantly down by 2 goals in the first period.  

So Karlsson is paid 6.5 million a year to defend? Guys who "defend" are paid basically what Chris Phillips is paid, Phillips "defends". Defense is a team game, offense is not because only certain players have the ability to do that. Everyone on the ice has the ability to play defence because it requires very little skill and just a lot of determination and heart. Can Karlsson be better in his own zone? For sure, everyone can but saying he's to blame for 2 GWG, while true, it wasn't because he wasn't defending. Karlsson gave the puck away against Anaheim so I fail to see where his lack of defense caused that goal?

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:Sure is and the game is about 10 times harder playing from behind.  Team that scores first wins what?  75% of the time or more?  Anderson is on pace and may have already set the single season record for first shot goals on a goaltender through 1 month of the season.  He's just an unprepared as the rest of the team and maybe more so because he's the damn goaltender, he needs to stop the puck early and give his team the best chance.

2nd and 3rd periods Anderson is usually lights out but he's letting in way too many goals early on in games and it's not something that can be debated.

I think the issue is a team-wide slow start...not an Anderson slow start.  Too many quality scoring chances are being given up early by the team.

The goals on Friday and Sunday night? Good goals that went in? No. Both 5 hole goals that were easily stoppable. LA goal? Easily stoppable. Anaheim goal in Anaheim is the only one where you can say "yah, that's just a great shot".

I think Karlsson is also paid $6.5M to hustle. That SH goal we gave up yesterday was a direct result of EK not hustling back. It was brutal to watch. $6.5M. Skate hard. Always.

He's from a stand still and his acceleration is not up to par yet. Hard to blame him.