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SeawaySensFan wrote:

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:No, I agree but Mac worked well with him last year and there's no reason at all to think out coach wouldn't have gotten him on the right path very quickly.  It's not the worst thing to happen, I'll admit that luke seems very capable of grooming young players, but I really thought the grooming was done with z.

He's been avoiding the AHL since drafted and the team has pretty much complied so far. A couple of dozen meh AHL games so far? A little more grooming wouldn't hurt.

Exactly.  He's on a pretty high horse with still 2 years to go on his entry level.  A few goals and a couple good games in the NHL and he believes his spot is secure?  That's his own fault.

Please, let's not make stuff up. He's a great kid and really mature. Just as Karlsson is and was when he was sent down.

Again though, he had a spot and lost it, Karlsson wasn't ready.  There is a difference there.  He came into camp expecting a spot, it's not a shot at the kid or his personality but he got the boot down to Bingo because he lost his spot to start the year.

There's no question he's going to be back up and probably sooner than later but the Sens needed to send this message.  Basically work as hard as Pageau and you will be on this team.

For sure. This guy's got all the tools for a long, meaningful NHL career but I don't think the "grooming" part is quite there yet.

Exactly. He will probably play 20 games, maybe not even that down in Bingo, someone will get injured, and he will be back up playing meaningful minutes in the NHL. I don't know what everyone is in a fuss about a 20 year old player going down to the AHL. Again, message sent, hopefully message received.

So Notch is obsessed with Neely and Ev is obsessed with Notch being obsessed with Neely. You guys are all weird.

NEELY wrote:So with Lazar right now we are still at 23 men aren't they?  Correct me if I am wrong there.

You are correct ... ed.

Apparently Lehner has bought Alfie's house.

Who in their right mind would have sent Pageau down to the AHL lol? Only if you need that spot more than you need the player - which you didn't the second you waived Hoffman.

I still have issues with Zibanejad going down though. Our Jack Adams winning coach knows what he has with Z-Bad, he coached him to solid success last season. He knows what he can do and what he needs work on.

And hopefully he's not going down to Bingo to perfect the C position, because it really appears that spot is taken from the top down. Spezza, Turris, Pageau, Smith and now Da Costa. I don't see when he'd ever sniff a C roster spot. He needs to learn wing to play with Pageau or to take Michalek's spot when he gets injured.

wprager wrote:Apparently Lehner has bought Alfie's house.  

That is very cool.

tim1_2 wrote:So Notch is obsessed with Neely and Ev is obsessed with Notch being obsessed with Neely.  You guys are all weird.

Why am I weird? Well based on that statement.

Forwards (13)
#19 Jason Spezza (C)
#6 Bobby Ryan
#9 Milan Michalek
#7 Kyle Turris
#16 Clarke MacArhur
#89 Cory Conacher
#14 Colin Greening
#22 Erik Condra
#25 Chris Neil (A)
#15 Zack Smith
#44 Jean-Gabriel Pageau
#28 Matt Kassian
#24 Stéphane Da Costa

Defense (7)
#65 Erik Karlsson
#3 Marc Methot
#4 Chris Phillips (A)
#2 Jared Cowen
#46 Patrick Wiercioch
#62 Eric Gryba
#77 Joe Corvo

Goalies (2)
#41 Craig Anderson
#40 Robin Lehner

http://senators.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=20871&navid=DL|OTT|home

And that's why I love Lehner.

Holy Dung. Murray told Zibanejad "you let two guys come in and take your spot."

tim1_2 wrote:So Notch is obsessed with Neely and Ev is obsessed with Notch being obsessed with Neely.  You guys are all weird.

I just hate how he is respected at Dobber Hockey and how he is a fraud

The only thing I want out of that lineup is more production from Greening and Condra. Also, I still have fear for the 2nd line, but pre-season helped to assuage those fears...a little.

Pageau ended up being the worst thing to happen to Z-Bad in Ottawa. Just completely outplayed him in every way - and is probably a better player when the chips are down (we'll have to wait and see how that shakes out).

Pageau...man, what can you say about that kid. Amazing.

SpezDispenser wrote:Holy Dung.  Murray told Zibanejad "you let two guys come in and take your spot."

Exactly. Pretty sure that's what SSF and I were saying.

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Holy Dung.  Murray told Zibanejad "you let two guys come in and take your spot."

Exactly.  Pretty sure that's what SSF and I were saying.

Well, I think we all knew that Da Costa and Pageau are the cause of this, but a lot of us thought Z-Bad would stay up with the big club and compete in a night in and night out basis with Da Costa. Also, it's pretty blunt of Murray. Usually he'd sugar coat that a little.

If you ask me right now who I'd rather have on the NHL Sens right now, it'd be Zibanejad over Da Costa because of speed, size and experience.  But hey, never argue with Murray.

Da Costa was the better in camp, worked harder in the off season, and earned the spot over Zibanejad. Proof that if you work hard and are good enough you will play. Zibanejad didn't, simple as that.

The decision isn't Da Costa over Z-Bad. The decision is Pageau over Z-Bad, and "we don't want to lose Da Costa for nothing so he'll stay for now."

tim1_2 wrote:The decision isn't Da Costa over Z-Bad.  The decision is Pageau over Z-Bad, and "we don't want to lose Da Costa for nothing so he'll stay for now."

Exactly. Pageau beat out Zibanejad and you can't really justify Zibanejad being up in the press box vs Da Costa who still hasn't earned a spot in the every day lineup.