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PTFlea


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Yeah, but none of these D are any good.

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Russel? Solid D man. Blum? Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance? Gilbert? Can run a 1st unit PP. Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

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NEELY wrote:Russel? Solid D man.  Blum?  Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance?  Gilbert?  Can run a 1st unit PP.  Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

What world are you living in?

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The world where Gilbert has done a solid job his whole career running a power play. He's not in the elite but he can do the job if it came down to it. Last year after Karlsson went down it would have been a blessing to have that type of player available from the right side. I've seen him enough to know what he can and can't do. Gilbert's problems stem from not being overly tough in his own zone and sometimes makes poor decision like a lot of other offensive D men.

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NEELY wrote:Russel? Solid D man.  Blum?  Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance?  Gilbert?  Can run a 1st unit PP.  Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

Blum is okay, but nothing special. Russel may or may not have a legitimate NHL future, hard to say, wouldn't put him above Wiercioch, that's for sure. And Gilbert is f-ing terrible. Get off the Gilbert train, he sucks.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
NEELY wrote:Russel? Solid D man.  Blum?  Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance?  Gilbert?  Can run a 1st unit PP.  Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

Blum is okay, but nothing special.  Russel may or may not have a legitimate NHL future, hard to say, wouldn't put him above Wiercioch, that's for sure.  And Gilbert is f-ing terrible.  Get off the Gilbert train, he sucks.
Gilbert seems like a typical Sens FA pickup. I would be willing to bet he is playing beside Cowen next year. Book it!

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
NEELY wrote:Russel? Solid D man.  Blum?  Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance?  Gilbert?  Can run a 1st unit PP.  Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

Blum is okay, but nothing special.  Russel may or may not have a legitimate NHL future, hard to say, wouldn't put him above Wiercioch, that's for sure.  And Gilbert is f-ing terrible.  Get off the Gilbert train, he sucks.
Gilbert seems like a typical Sens FA pickup.  I would be willing to bet he is playing beside Cowen next year.  Book it!

Aw man...we're gonna go nuts watching him shart the puck up in the defensive zone over and over and over in that case. Kuba part 2 - but the bad Kuba.

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LOL. He's much better than Kuba. But he will make you shake your head in frustration.

PTFlea

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Oglethorpe wrote:LOL. He's much better than Kuba. But he will make you shake your head in frustration.  

Which Kuba is he better than? The one who just got bought out, yes, I agree, the one that played with Karlsson and prospered? I don't agree.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:LOL. He's much better than Kuba. But he will make you shake your head in frustration.  

Which Kuba is he better than?  The one who just got bought out, yes, I agree, the one that played with Karlsson and prospered?  I don't agree.
It's the same Kuba, just not playing with a Norris trophy winner. See Beukeboom, Jeff.

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Oglethorpe wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Oglethorpe wrote:LOL. He's much better than Kuba. But he will make you shake your head in frustration.  

Which Kuba is he better than?  The one who just got bought out, yes, I agree, the one that played with Karlsson and prospered?  I don't agree.
It's the same Kuba, just not playing with a Norris trophy winner.  See Beukeboom, Jeff.

Hmmm, I'll believe that when I see it.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Hmmm, I'll believe that when I see it.

That happens all the time. Teams sign a FA only to later realize it's his partner who made him look good and put up good numbers.

Pronger made Matt Carle look like a stud as well. I think he could make almost anyone look good.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
NEELY wrote:Russel? Solid D man.  Blum?  Decent and could be a lot better, people talk about Gryba (me included) as being a legit NHL d man but Blum is a year or two younger and has a lot more upside than him, so why wouldn't you take a chance?  Gilbert?  Can run a 1st unit PP.  Some other I am missing for sure but the point still stands.

Blum is okay, but nothing special.  Russel may or may not have a legitimate NHL future, hard to say, wouldn't put him above Wiercioch, that's for sure.  And Gilbert is f-ing terrible.  Get off the Gilbert train, he sucks.

Gilbert was decent in Minny and was in tough his last year in Edmonton.  He's a borderline top 4 D man and yes, he runs a decent PP. Gilbert with Cowen would be a solid pairing for sure.

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I'd give him a chance if we got him of course, but I have some doubts.

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NEELY wrote:
Gilbert was decent in Minny and was in tough his last year in Edmonton.  He's a borderline top 4 D man and yes, he runs a decent PP.  Gilbert with Cowen would be a solid pairing for sure.

Gilbert (and some other guy) were stupid enough to play golf in November/December and came down with pneumonia which impacted their health, probably why they sucked last season.

http://www2.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=8274439&p=2

Former Oilers Tom Gilbert and Kyle Brodziak both had pneumonia early this season. During the lockout, they golfed 45 holes one day in late November in Minnesota when it was only four degrees. Gilbert ended up with viral and bacterial pneumonia and spent four days in hospital. Brodziak didn't get sick until January, but he lost 15 pounds and it zapped his strength. He said he is finally back to feeling better. When I asked them what they were thinking golfing on that cold of a day Gilbert said: "We weren't thinking. I have no idea why we kept playing. It definitely wasn't our best decision."

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Again, Gilbert would be a very solid option as a partner for Cowen so if they brought him in for 2 years at 5 mil... something along those lines it would be money well spent. But like I have said a million times now I think they go way of Blum who still has a ton of upside or Russel who can help out a power play that's missing a LH shot on the point besides Wiercioch who may not be ready for those big PP mins.

PTFlea

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NEELY wrote:Again, Gilbert would be a very solid option as a partner for Cowen so if they brought him in for 2 years at 5 mil... something along those lines it would be money well spent.  But like I have said a million times now I think they go way of Blum who still has a ton of upside or Russel who can help out a power play that's missing a LH shot on the point besides Wiercioch who may not be ready for those big PP mins.

Uh...Wiercioch is ready, look at his stats from last year. Ready as ready can be.

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Hoags wrote:
NEELY wrote:
Gilbert was decent in Minny and was in tough his last year in Edmonton.  He's a borderline top 4 D man and yes, he runs a decent PP.  Gilbert with Cowen would be a solid pairing for sure.

Gilbert (and some other guy) were stupid enough to play golf in November/December and came down with pneumonia which impacted their health, probably why they sucked last season.

http://www2.canada.com/topics/sports/story.html?id=8274439&p=2

Former Oilers Tom Gilbert and Kyle Brodziak both had pneumonia early this season. During the lockout, they golfed 45 holes one day in late November in Minnesota when it was only four degrees. Gilbert ended up with viral and bacterial pneumonia and spent four days in hospital. Brodziak didn't get sick until January, but he lost 15 pounds and it zapped his strength. He said he is finally back to feeling better. When I asked them what they were thinking golfing on that cold of a day Gilbert said: "We weren't thinking. I have no idea why we kept playing. It definitely wasn't our best decision."

That's hilarious. Good stuff!!

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