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NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

SpezDispenser wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Philly, Vancouver, Chicago isn't great either, SJ is at 55 for 15 players - so...not great, Tampa.

Philly's your place to look.

NEELY wrote:

Hoags wrote:Don't trade Cowen, he is one of the most physical D-man we have and look at the division we are in.

I'd be really careful in judging Cowen(or anyone else) on this shortened, injury-plagued season.

Thing is we could use Wiercioch as well. This team got boxed into its own zone far too often and he is good at moving the puck out.

Never once did I suggest or say Cowen should be traded. If someone offers up Taylor Hall and Cowen is the piece they want back, well you do it. That sort of thing and having Gonchar back there for a couple of years would allow you to make a move like that, your hands wouldn't be tied because of a lack of depth. That was my entire point.

NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

LeKing wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Philly, Vancouver, Chicago isn't great either, SJ is at 55 for 15 players - so...not great, Tampa.

Philly's your place to look.

I already know about Philly but the Prager will bookmark my post if I ever mention them again

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

That seems mighty low for a player like Eriksson. Think you have to deal one of Silf or Z-Bad to get him.

NEELY wrote:
Never once did I suggest or say Cowen should be traded. If someone offers up Taylor Hall and Cowen is the piece they want back, well you do it. That sort of thing and having Gonchar back there for a couple of years would allow you to make a move like that, your hands wouldn't be tied because of a lack of depth. That was my entire point.

LeKing wrote:

NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

They will already be $20M under the cap though, with about 2 players to re-sign...

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

That seems mighty low for a player like Eriksson. Think you have to deal one of Silf or Z-Bad to get him.

Zibanejad would be the guy for sure but you don't give up much more than Zibanejad if that's the case. Maybe a guy like Weircioch is added but you gotta be careful. Not sure what they will do but that's the type of move you need to make. People don't give enough credit to a guy like Noesen being born and raised in Dallas either, that has a lot of lure just like Pageau in Ottawa.

Hoags wrote:Eriksson has an NTC, not sure how that would play out. How many Swedes do we need ? I'd be a little weary of building a team like the Canucks that is going to get physically destroyed by a Western team.

I suspect MacTavish might make a big move, he at least says he wants to. I can't see them trading Eberle or Hall, it'd be Yakupov. He'd have high value and they were willing to trade his pick.

NEELY wrote:
Never once did I suggest or say Cowen should be traded. If someone offers up Taylor Hall and Cowen is the piece they want back, well you do it. That sort of thing and having Gonchar back there for a couple of years would allow you to make a move like that, your hands wouldn't be tied because of a lack of depth. That was my entire point.

It wasn't directed at you. Just in general. We don't want a soft defense corps.

LeKing wrote:
Bobby Ryan it is.

LeKing wrote:I wonder what Zack Smith and Cowen could land us from Edmonton

Hoags wrote:

LeKing wrote:
Bobby Ryan it is.

Ryan has 2 years left and I think he'll sign with the Flyers at that point.

We need a guy whose rights we'd retain for a quite a long time.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Dallas isn't in cap hell but they are in financial hell. They are a team that's not even close to contending in that new central division, they need to get more pieces in their pipe line because GMJN had an awful scouting staff and did the worst job in the NHL in his time there.

Stone/1st (next year)/Wiercioch for Eriksson would be fantastic... allows Dallas to fill major needs to work towards the rebuild with young players who will fit in right away. Might have to be Noesen if it's a move with Dallas though for obvious reason.

That seems mighty low for a player like Eriksson. Think you have to deal one of Silf or Z-Bad to get him.

Zibanejad would be the guy for sure but you don't give up much more than Zibanejad if that's the case. Maybe a guy like Weircioch is added but you gotta be careful. Not sure what they will do but that's the type of move you need to make. People don't give enough credit to a guy like Noesen being born and raised in Dallas either, that has a lot of lure just like Pageau in Ottawa.

Yeah, but I love Noesen as a prospect. I guess if it saves us from sending Zibanejad or Silf, but I hate that though. Think Noesen is gonna make Smith really expendable.

NEELY wrote:Unless Noesen is going to be playing 4th line his whole career no chance. Smith is the perfect 4th line center right now and plays a big role. He's turned into a really solid NHLer on a 1.8 cap hit deal... not going anywhere. Noesen is probably a guy they don't want to move either, I agree.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Hoags wrote:

LeKing wrote:Sounds like the priority is to package young players to get a top liner.

Let's start exploring the possibilities. Who is in cap hell?

Only teams that I think may be in legitimate cap hell are Vancouver and St. Louis (not hell per say but they have a lot of guys to sign).

Don't want anyone on Vancouver.

I'll take the Sedin that's a winger.