Why does Melnyk and Murray even care? If they want a big fish, go and land Ryan. Am I wrong? What's the difference? I'd say Ryan's just as gifted a goal scorer.
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SpezDispenser wrote:Why does Melnyk and Murray even care? If they want a big fish, go and land Ryan. Am I wrong? What's the difference? I'd say Ryan's just as gifted a goal scorer.
SpezDispenser wrote:Why does Melnyk and Murray even care? If they want a big fish, go and land Ryan. Am I wrong? What's the difference? I'd say Ryan's just as gifted a goal scorer.
SpezDispenser wrote:Riprock wrote:Could also be a little mind games, and it might mean that Nash may change his mind to come to Ottawa, but the price Ottawa is willing to play may have just come down.
Also, Sens think Stone > Zibanejad.
I think what that meant was that they didn't want to include Stone on top of Zibanejad and Lehner. That was my understanding.
Hoags wrote:Riprock wrote:No, the answer should be, sure, but now we are only prepared to give you __, ___, and ___ instead of Foligno, Zibanejad and Lehner
Nash had a chance to waive his NMC for Ottawa, he said no.
Melnyk said
Our offer is off the table (especially since we traded Foligno anyway). If changes his mind later and adds Ottawa to his list, we are not interested anymore.
We don't players who do not want to be here (Nash).
NEELY wrote:SpezDispenser wrote:Why does Melnyk and Murray even care? If they want a big fish, go and land Ryan. Am I wrong? What's the difference? I'd say Ryan's just as gifted a goal scorer.
Ryan has prima donna written all over him
Riprock wrote:
I interpreted it as one or the other, but the Sens refused to offer Stone, and rather preferred trading Zibanejad.
Riprock wrote:
But as far as Melnyk saying he only wants people in Ottawa whose first choice is playing here, that's not entirely true. I highly doubt Ottawa was Kovalev and Gonchar's first choices, it as just the only one that gave them what they wanted. So if Crosby didn't want to play here as his first choice but Ottawa had a chance to get him, you saying Melnyk would not allow the trade?
Riprock wrote:
Ottawa's not Nash's first choice, and the Sens would be dumb to not take Nash on IF he changed his mind.
Hoags wrote:Riprock wrote:
But as far as Melnyk saying he only wants people in Ottawa whose first choice is playing here, that's not entirely true. I highly doubt Ottawa was Kovalev and Gonchar's first choices, it as just the only one that gave them what they wanted. So if Crosby didn't want to play here as his first choice but Ottawa had a chance to get him, you saying Melnyk would not allow the trade?
We're not his ANY choice, the article says he REFUSED to add us to his list. Sens are out. He wants to go to SJ, NYR, Philly, whatever.
Gonchar and Kovalev got an offer from us and they ACCEPTED, Nash REFUSED.
If he changes his mind later because he is desperate, well then it's too late, he had his chance.
Kapeesh ?
Riprock wrote:Nash is not over the hill lol.
He's also better than Heatley (who was good until he ruiend his shoulder and knees). Nash is healthy. He's also a better playmaker and defensive player.
Ottawa signed 35+ players to overpaid, longer deals than nobody else would offer. The issue was a first choice vs. any choice. Gonchar would have probably preferred to stay in the 'Burgh. Kovalev wanted to sty in Montreal.
The other issue is not that Ottawa isn't his #1 or any choice right now, but if it changes.
If none of the teams on his list trade for him, he has to consider alternatives.
hemlock wrote:
The question is, will those teams consider him, if they know they are clearly a last resort type of scenario?
hemlock wrote:
The question is, will those teams consider him, if they know they are clearly a last resort type of scenario?
Big Ev wrote:How about you stay the Cussing course and stick with the up and coming young players you have? THERE'S A THOUGHT!!!!
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