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Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011
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151 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:17 am
SensHulk
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152 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:51 am
SensHulk
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3 friggin rookies scored their first goal tonight against Ottawa. Ouch.
153 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:20 am
tim1_2
Franchise Player
Michallica wrote:I hate to pin losses on a goalie, but with the mentality of this team, auld's gotta stop that first goal. It's always downhill from the first goal allowed....
Yeah, they look like a fragile team right now, and letting in that soft goal over the shoulder was a recipe for disaster.
Obviously there is lots of work to be done, but I think once Anderson gets in his groove, we'll see close, competitive games. There's not much point in debating which rookies need to go to the AHL, as I think we all agree that all of them could use a little AHL seasoning, but we don't really have the bodies to make that possible at this point.
I now know why all those media-types were picking Ottawa to finish at the bottom of the Eastern Conference!!
154 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:27 am
NEELY
Mod
Well, after a night to just sleep that off (more disappointed than mad), my thoughts.
1. If it wasn't for Karlsson the Sens may not score a goal all year. Best draft pick since Hossa. He still has some short comings but he may be the best player in Ottawa already.
2. Zibanejad looked impressive again, they have to keep him at center. Best game since being moved to Spezza's wing.
3. Da Costa... looks like a kid that just came out of college and is starting to wear down already. NHL skills, NHL vision, ECHL body. He needs the season in the AHL especially if he is starting to slow down after 2 weeks.
3. Spezza and Michalek. Those two need to start doing a lot more. Combined they make close to 12 mil and they look like they don't have a clue what to do out there. Spezza might be the most uncoachable player in the NHL and Michalek only knows how to play one way.
4. Goaltending. Obviously needs to be better.
5. Rundblad and Cowen, both have their moments, good and bad. At this point though they both need to be in Ottawa. They are NHL ready they but they are makign rookie mistakes, it's going to happen, let them learn.
6. Zack Smith. Where is he? Penalty box? He hasn't done a thing all year or in camp. He needs to step up in a big way.
7. The guys that have been meh, not good, not bad, just kind of there, Condra, Lee, Kuba, and Konopka (even with his fights).
Anyways, those are my thoughts if anyone gives a Diddle.
1. If it wasn't for Karlsson the Sens may not score a goal all year. Best draft pick since Hossa. He still has some short comings but he may be the best player in Ottawa already.
2. Zibanejad looked impressive again, they have to keep him at center. Best game since being moved to Spezza's wing.
3. Da Costa... looks like a kid that just came out of college and is starting to wear down already. NHL skills, NHL vision, ECHL body. He needs the season in the AHL especially if he is starting to slow down after 2 weeks.
3. Spezza and Michalek. Those two need to start doing a lot more. Combined they make close to 12 mil and they look like they don't have a clue what to do out there. Spezza might be the most uncoachable player in the NHL and Michalek only knows how to play one way.
4. Goaltending. Obviously needs to be better.
5. Rundblad and Cowen, both have their moments, good and bad. At this point though they both need to be in Ottawa. They are NHL ready they but they are makign rookie mistakes, it's going to happen, let them learn.
6. Zack Smith. Where is he? Penalty box? He hasn't done a thing all year or in camp. He needs to step up in a big way.
7. The guys that have been meh, not good, not bad, just kind of there, Condra, Lee, Kuba, and Konopka (even with his fights).
Anyways, those are my thoughts if anyone gives a Diddle.
155 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:30 am
NEELY
Mod
[quote="tim1_2"]
Yeah, they look like a fragile team right now, and letting in that soft goal over the shoulder was a recipe for disaster.
Obviously there is lots of work to be done, but I think once Anderson gets in his groove, we'll see close, competitive games. There's not much point in debating which rookies need to go to the AHL, as I think we all agree that all of them could use a little AHL seasoning, but we don't really have the bodies to make that possible at this point.
I now know why all those media-types were picking Ottawa to finish at the bottom of the Eastern Conference!![/quote]
I still can't believe they are this bad. I honestly thought/hoped Spezza had turned the corner in his career and could lead the team both on and off the ice. What you see is what you get though, Spezza is Spezza, won't change. If I had to guess, he will play out his contract here and move on if he isn't traded before then.
Also, thought there would be a lot more team speed and harder work from the younger guys in Ottawa. The same guys who cared and worked thier a$$es off 5 years ago are the same guys today.
Michallica wrote:I hate to pin losses on a goalie, but with the mentality of this team, auld's gotta stop that first goal. It's always downhill from the first goal allowed....
Yeah, they look like a fragile team right now, and letting in that soft goal over the shoulder was a recipe for disaster.
Obviously there is lots of work to be done, but I think once Anderson gets in his groove, we'll see close, competitive games. There's not much point in debating which rookies need to go to the AHL, as I think we all agree that all of them could use a little AHL seasoning, but we don't really have the bodies to make that possible at this point.
I now know why all those media-types were picking Ottawa to finish at the bottom of the Eastern Conference!![/quote]
I still can't believe they are this bad. I honestly thought/hoped Spezza had turned the corner in his career and could lead the team both on and off the ice. What you see is what you get though, Spezza is Spezza, won't change. If I had to guess, he will play out his contract here and move on if he isn't traded before then.
Also, thought there would be a lot more team speed and harder work from the younger guys in Ottawa. The same guys who cared and worked thier a$$es off 5 years ago are the same guys today.
156 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:49 am
shabbs
Hall of Famer
Time for the cliches...La Femme wrote:wprager wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:Alex Auld is tremendous. We should trade Anderson and Lehner.
Yakupov, we're coming for you.
So, as of today, do you think there's a worse 5 on 5 team in the NHL?
"Back to basics"
"Keep it simple"
"Do the little things right"
"Get the first goal"
"Make the stops"
"Play the full 60 mins"
yadda yadda yadda...
This looks like a team not playing as a team right now... PMac will have to get them gellin' again.
157 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:52 am
NEELY
Mod
shabbs wrote:Time for the cliches...La Femme wrote:wprager wrote:Oglethorpe wrote:Alex Auld is tremendous. We should trade Anderson and Lehner.
Yakupov, we're coming for you.
So, as of today, do you think there's a worse 5 on 5 team in the NHL?
"Back to basics"
"Keep it simple"
"Do the little things right"
"Get the first goal"
"Make the stops"
"Play the full 60 mins"
yadda yadda yadda...
This looks like a team not playing as a team right now... PMac will have to get them gellin' again.
That's going to be the hardest part of this whole proccess and it depends on one player inparticular doing so. It has to be Spezza.
158 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:45 am
shabbs
Hall of Famer
Yeah, but that's what the coach is there to do... get the team on the same page, focused on the same goals and talking the same language. Let's hope he can git 'er dun.
159 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:54 am
NEELY
Mod
shabbs wrote:Yeah, but that's what the coach is there to do... get the team on the same page, focused on the same goals and talking the same language. Let's hope he can git 'er dun.
The last 4 coaches couldn't.
160 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:32 am
Da lil Guy
Rookie
I think questions have to be raised about how MacLean is adjusting to life in as a head coach.
We haven't seen any consistent lines. Even lines most of us thought were working and effective got blown up last night (even before things went bad).
We've played 6 games, and Maclean's still at the drawing board. We talk about the team gelling, learning the system, etc. - but they don't even know who they'll be playing beside game to game. In some cases, they don't even know what position they'll be asked to play. Is it a surprise that this team still seems lost next to teams where everyone knows their role?
We haven't seen any consistent lines. Even lines most of us thought were working and effective got blown up last night (even before things went bad).
We've played 6 games, and Maclean's still at the drawing board. We talk about the team gelling, learning the system, etc. - but they don't even know who they'll be playing beside game to game. In some cases, they don't even know what position they'll be asked to play. Is it a surprise that this team still seems lost next to teams where everyone knows their role?
161 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:35 am
NEELY
Mod
Da lil Guy wrote:I think questions have to be raised about how MacLean is adjusting to life in as a head coach.
We haven't seen any consistent lines. Even lines most of us thought were working and effective got blown up last night (even before things went bad).
We've played 6 games, and Maclean's still at the drawing board. We talk about the team gelling, learning the system, etc. - but they don't even know who they'll be playing beside game to game. In some cases, they don't even know what position they'll be asked to play. Is it a surprise that this team still seems lost next to teams where everyone knows their role?
I think you hit the nail on the head but by mistake. It shouldn't matter who you play with, the team system should be the same from the 1st to the 4th line.
It's going to take more than 6 games to sort things out, establish a new core, figure out what works and what doesn't. It might take 2 or 3 seasons.
You also need to establish a new leadership core.
162 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:54 am
SeawaySensFan
Franchise Player
Da lil Guy wrote:I think questions have to be raised about how MacLean is adjusting to life in as a head coach.
How dare you? He's the "communication" guru.
Clouston and "Smelliott" are to blame.
163 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:54 am
Riprock
All-Star
I have now been in attendance for 14 goals against and 3 goals for. I think I am a curse, so I will continue to go to as many games as I can so that I make it nearly impossible for the Sens not to be in position to draft Nail Yakupov.
The last Philly goals was a thing of beauty.
I still don't know why a lot of you are so surprised by the teams performance. I am pretty sure I called this from the beginning - they are not a good team, I am aware, and I am in full support of losing if it means getting a player that will be a centrepiece of the franchise for years. You can draft all the late picks you want, but they may or may not be anything better than a forced top 6 player. Edmonton has two players who are consensus top 6 on any team. I want that.
If the team makes a desperation move to try and win I will be furious.
The last Philly goals was a thing of beauty.
I still don't know why a lot of you are so surprised by the teams performance. I am pretty sure I called this from the beginning - they are not a good team, I am aware, and I am in full support of losing if it means getting a player that will be a centrepiece of the franchise for years. You can draft all the late picks you want, but they may or may not be anything better than a forced top 6 player. Edmonton has two players who are consensus top 6 on any team. I want that.
If the team makes a desperation move to try and win I will be furious.
164 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:03 am
SeawaySensFan
Franchise Player
Dash wrote:I have now been in attendance for 14 goals against and 3 goals for. I think I am a curse, so I will continue to go to as many games as I can so that I make it nearly impossible for the Sens not to be in position to draft Nail Yakupov.
The last Philly goals was a thing of beauty.
I still don't know why a lot of you are so surprised by the teams performance. I am pretty sure I called this from the beginning - they are not a good team, I am aware, and I am in full support of losing if it means getting a player that will be a centrepiece of the franchise for years. You can draft all the late picks you want, but they may or may not be anything better than a forced top 6 player. Edmonton has two players who are consensus top 6 on any team. I want that.
If the team makes a desperation move to try and win I will be furious.
I don't get why an Avalanche/Philly fan would care either way.
165 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:18 am
PTFlea
Co-Founder
Bottom line, while MacLean and co. and the players get their Dung together, we need Anderson in there stealing games - and he can do it, we all know he can. So really, we're suffering through an 'everything that can go wrong...' scenario right now. I'm supremely confident in Anderson, and when he gets into a groove, he'll make a lot of the transitions we're facing a lot easier.
166 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:19 am
SeawaySensFan
Franchise Player
SpezDispenser wrote:Bottom line, while MacLean and co. and the players get their Dung together, we need Anderson in there stealing games - and he can do it, we all know he can. So really, we're suffering through an 'everything that can go wrong...' scenario right now. I'm supremely confident in Anderson, and when he gets into a groove, he'll make a lot of the transitions we're facing a lot easier.
That pinhead, The Name Dropper, is delighted with Anderson's struggles.
167 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:27 am
PTFlea
Co-Founder
SeawaySensFan wrote:
That pinhead, The Name Dropper, is delighted with Anderson's struggles.
Strange little man that MaGuire.
168 Re: Game Day - Philadelphia @ Ottawa, 7:30PM, Tuesday, October 18, 2011 Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:52 am
wprager
Administrator
tim1_2 wrote:Michallica wrote:I hate to pin losses on a goalie, but with the mentality of this team, auld's gotta stop that first goal. It's always downhill from the first goal allowed....
Yeah, they look like a fragile team right now, and letting in that soft goal over the shoulder was a recipe for disaster.
Obviously there is lots of work to be done, but I think once Anderson gets in his groove, we'll see close, competitive games. There's not much point in debating which rookies need to go to the AHL, as I think we all agree that all of them could use a little AHL seasoning, but we don't really have the bodies to make that possible at this point.
I now know why all those media-types were picking Ottawa to finish at the bottom of the Eastern Conference!!
We got Regin back, and Winchester is getting close. We are already sitting one forward, and Parrish (veteran NHLer) lighting it up in Bingo. Then there's Filatov, who (IMO) did not deserve to be sent down, and has earned a second look (despite what I said about his practice habits).
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