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The Curious Case of Barry Brust...

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PTFlea


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The Ottawa Senators have had a tough time nailing down a starting goaltender - especially in this wonky year that's been. They've finally found someone who at 29 is in the prime of his career and is saying all the right things - and is stopping the puck! What an idea that is!

So now the job gets a little easier, it's time to find a back-up. Now, keep in mind that the back-up will probably play a bare minimum of 15 games next year, it's only logical to say that Anderson will get between 60-65 starts. Looking at it from that point of view, it's not a significant number. However, as we all know by now, making the playoffs can be a fickle beast. At the end of a hard fought season you could miss by 2 point, 4 points, or lose in a shoot out like the Rangers of last year - in other words, every point counts, so this is a much more important decision than just simply putting pen to paper of the first guy that comes around. He has to fit in with the team, he has to drive Anderson and he has to get along with Anderson.

The initial knee-jerk reaction would be the re-sign Mcelhinney to a cheap, 1 year contract and call it a day. Then, move to shore up the depth in the system by re-signing Barry Brust. Sounds easy enough, shouldn't be too many issues - unless Brust wants to go overseas for the money, but he's treated as a rock star in Binghamton right now, so there's really little to indicate that he would leave.

But what happens when the Sens insist on Robin Lehner getting at least 50 starts in the AHL? All of a sudden Brust, one of the year's MVPs in the AHL, is designated to back-up...in the AHL no less. What to do with that?

Well, the other knee-jerk reaction would be to simply sign him as the back-up to Anderson next year, after all he's sporting a .925 save % for the B-Sens and is directly responsible for their rise to a playoff spot, he should be able to back-up in the NHL, right? The answer to that would be: who knows? Maybe he comes into a situation in Ottawa and absolutely sucks, not being able to handle the speed, the difference in shots between the two leagues, maybe he simple doesn't have the mental makeup, then what to do? The easiest move would be to sign another goalie - mind you this would be well into the season, so it wouldn't be as easy as it sounds - or just let it happen, but as discussed, sometimes it can come back to bite you at the end of the year. That's not to say that anyone's predicting the Sens to make the playoffs, but it would hurt if that was the reason we missed.

So, finally after Brust has made several back-up appearances and not done well, he's send back down to Bingo. Here's where it can get really tricky. If Lehner falters a bit in the AHL and Brust comes in and does what he's doing this year, Lehner will becomes a 'villain' in a town starved for playoff games. The fans there have already booed Lehner whenever he's made appearances because they prefer to have Brust in there (who can really blame them right now). Will they boo him again if he's the starter and one of the league's MVP's is riding the pine? Very likely.

There's a contingent of us who think that Lehner will need to deal with the boos, the reaction he gets from the fans down there that think this is a mistake - and there will be plenty, rest assured, the other side of the argument is that it will eventually breed contempt. Players don't like to lose, the first time Lehner falters, they'll be expecting Brust to come in - and if he doesn't, there will begin to be some friction between even the players and Lehner. Add to that the boos that will rain down and there's a situation here that can be avoided.

But is it at the expense of Barry Brust? All this to say that this is not an easy decision - at least not as easy as simply signing and designating, there's a lot of emotions that will come into play here if Brust is re-signed and made to play in Bingo. Someone that follows Bingo closely suggested to me the other day that the Sens walk away from Brust. I was shocked and questioned that in a big way, but I'm starting to understand the sentiment.

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Post Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:02 pm by PTFlea

spader wrote:
Dash wrote:Would you guys be ok with Lehner and Brust in Bingo, and Anderson and Brodeur in Ottawa? I would.

Brodeur only needs to start a handful of games probably, and the odd relief job. He'll be affordable and likely won't have many other offers at the NHL. Brust is well liked in Binghamton and gets along well with Lehner it seems.

Is Brodeur good enough to be a regular backup in the NHL? I'm not sure. I'd rather get an Alex Auld or someone like that. Of course, MB might be fine here. Hard to say.

Don't gamble is my opinion, spend the money on Conklin or someone like that.

Post Sun Jun 12, 2011 2:43 pm by wprager

sandysensfan wrote:
Michallica wrote:
Dash wrote:Would you guys be ok with Lehner and Brust in Bingo, and Anderson and Brodeur in Ottawa? I would.

Brodeur only needs to start a handful of games probably, and the odd relief job. He'll be affordable and likely won't have many other offers at the NHL. Brust is well liked in Binghamton and gets along well with Lehner it seems.

I'd be okay too but he is injury prone. I'd like to minimize the callups of Lehner when Brodeur is injured. Personally I think they gotta get Patty Lalime back. What he did in buffalo last year backing up miller and then making way for enroth to play when miller was injured is exactly what Ottawa is looking for. He's usually healthy and as an added bonus of a feel-good storyline, I think having the fans behind it would be no problem. Solid signing if that's the case...everyone wins, including Lalime.

Lalime, as much as he is a great person, was terrible last year. They could not put him in nets... or it was a loss. Hense the recall of Enroth. No to Lalime.

Someone mentioned somewhere... Turco... Don't know about that either.

The backup has to be able to win games when called upon.

Question is.... who is that goaltender?

Thing is, Murray has already gone on record that their #2 guy will always be #2. When Anderson is injured, Lehner will come in to play, and the backup will remain the backup. The only time he'll play is in-game substitution, some back-to-back nights and if Lehner is injured.

Given that, *who* do you think will want to come here?

PTFlea

Post Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:14 pm by PTFlea

What a dumb thing that was for Murray to say.

shabbs

Post Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:18 pm by shabbs

That is odd... so who plays when Anderson needs a break? Or will Anderson play 82-games? Wink

Seems odd... do we have a link to him actually saying that?

wprager

Post Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:09 pm by wprager

shabbs wrote:That is odd... so who plays when Anderson needs a break? Or will Anderson play 82-games? Wink

Seems odd... do we have a link to him actually saying that?

Ask and ye shall receive: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2011/06/08/senators_lehner/


If we had a second goaltender and our first guy (Anderson) happened to go down, our second goaltender would still be the second goaltender. And Robin could come up and play games.

He's specifically talking about injuries. The backup will get a backup's share of starts when Anderson needs a rest, but anything longer than one game they'll bring up Lehner. That's my interpretation.

So, back to what I said earlier, this limits our field -- some free agents will not want this; it also widens our field, since we don't need to worry about a guy being able to play 5-10 games in a row if Anderson is injured.

tim1_2

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:28 am by tim1_2

Conklin would be great...and there's lots of other capable backups on the market. It should NOT be Mike Brodeur or someone else with very limited NHL experience.

shabbs

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:38 am by shabbs

Perhaps this is more of a sell job for Lehner... you know he wants to be up with the big club so Murray is letting him know he'll get the call-up priority when injuries are longer than one game and he'll be getting the starts when he does come up.

Not an ideal situation for the incoming backup goal tender for sure.

Riprock

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:18 am by Riprock

They are just looking for a body to sit on the bench - it could be anyone. They should just sign Matthew Spezza if he clears waivers.

shabbs

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:44 am by shabbs

Dash wrote:They are just looking for a body to sit on the bench - it could be anyone. They should just sign Matthew Spezza if he clears waivers.
HA HA! Was thinking the same thing... he spends enough time filling in as it is...

shabbs

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:53 pm by shabbs

I wonder why they're not even offering a contract to Curtis? Seems odd...

wprager

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:00 pm by wprager

Dash wrote:They are just looking for a body to sit on the bench - it could be anyone. They should just sign Matthew Spezza if he clears waivers.

I was just coming in here to say "Matt Spezza"!

Laugh1

Wait, why does he have to clear waivers? And why would we even care?

I've got Emery's old practice jersey hanging in my closet, still. Barely used ( The Curious Case of Barry Brust... - Page 4 164414 ) and they could just drape that over the little stool that the backup sits on; if Anderson gets injured in-game they just hang it over the cross bar.

PTFlea

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:20 pm by PTFlea

shabbs wrote:I wonder why they're not even offering a contract to Curtis? Seems odd...

Because Murray's full of Dung and he wants a real backup a la Auld or Conklin to come in and push Anderson when the need arises. He doesn't want Anderson burning himself out, he doesn't want Anderson thinking he's king Dung all the time and slacking at all, he wants a tandem - albeit where the 2nd half of the tandem only gets 25 games, but still, he wants a guy Anderson and MacLean can turn to when he needs a break. It's so obviously not correct to say Lehner will come up when Anderson gets hurt. There are still 25-30 other games where the backup either needs to come in or is starting in lieu of a tired Anderson or a spotty Anderson performance etc. etc. etc.

shabbs

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:22 pm by shabbs

SpezDispenser wrote:
shabbs wrote:I wonder why they're not even offering a contract to Curtis? Seems odd...

Because Murray's full of Dung and he wants a real backup a la Auld or Conklin to come in and push Anderson when the need arises. He doesn't want Anderson burning himself out, he doesn't want Anderson thinking he's king Dung all the time and slacking at all, he wants a tandem - albeit where the 2nd half of the tandem only gets 25 games, but still, he wants a guy Anderson and MacLean can turn to when he needs a break. It's so obviously not correct to say Lehner will come up when Anderson gets hurt. There are still 25-30 other games where the backup either needs to come in or is starting in lieu of a tired Anderson or a spotty Anderson performance etc. etc. etc.
And so, I'll ask again, why can't Curtis be that guy?

PTFlea

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:23 pm by PTFlea

I don't see why he's not. I would guess that Murray is waiting to see if he can get Conklin - because that's the gold crown of backups - and I bet he's pretty sure Curtis will be around later on July 1...or 2, or 3.

Even if he loses Conklin, Auld and Curtis, he can still get one somewhere IMO.

SensHulk

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:01 pm by SensHulk

Personally I thought C-Mac was more than capable as a backup in his short stint with Ottawa. I too don't get why they don't want him back. But Jokinen was re-signed last summer as a ufa by calgary.....

Ev

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:06 pm by Ev

Kleinendorst is the Binghamton head coach. Even if he wanted to go elsewhere, he can't unless they give him permission.

SensHulk

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:08 pm by SensHulk

Big Ev wrote:Kleinendorst is the Binghamton head coach. Even if he wanted to go elsewhere, he can't unless they give him permission.

They probably would give him the permission....the guy just won their ahl affiliate a championship, he deserves that much respect.

tim1_2

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:17 pm by tim1_2

Yeah, teams don't "deny" their coaches the ability to seek out a promotion/pay-raise elsewhere. That would be horrible PR.

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