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The Case for Kaspars Daugavins

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Kaspars Daugavins is at a crossroads in his hockey career right now. He could sign another 2-way contract and hope to heck that he gets some opportunity in the NHL or he could play in Europe for considerably more money than he’d make in the AHL and probably be close to as happy.

However, having tasted success at the pro level - both statistically and by winning the Calder Cup, he’s starting to make a name for himself. Known as “The Rooster” inside the B-Sens’ clubhouse, he’s a character right out of Slap Shot or better yet The Love Guru, where Justin Timberlake sports the same mustache as Kaspars did during the B-Sens Cup run. He’s certainly got the personality, but let’s look closer at the skill which has put him at the center of the discussion of who should make the NHL team out of Bingo. Certainly there are no illusions that Bobby Butler, Colin Greening, Zack Smith and probably Erik Condra are ahead of him on the depth chart - and there are more to come in Jakob Silverberg and this year’s two first round picks, but looking closer, should they be?

Daugavins first had success in the OHL, scoring 18 goals and 60 points in his rookie year with the Mississauga St. Michael's Majors, then the next year he notched 40 goals and 74 points - good for tops on the team by some 25 points. So he has the skill, what else can he bring? In his first year of pro hockey, Daugavins was trying to acclimatize himself to the speed of the pros, so while he played PP, he wasn’t used in a PK role. He put up a healthy 46 points, including 21 goals in his first full year in Binghamton and his pro career was officially launched. This past season, Daugavins posted 19 goals and 54 points - but also added 20 points in 23 playoff games to be a huge part of the Championship Binghamton team. Perhaps more important are the extra responsibilities coach Kurt Kleinendorst bestowed on him - including the penalty kill.

Charged with the task of PK-ing, Daugavins seemed to take his game to the next level. He reads the play well and when he did get a chance to go on the offensive short-handed, the result were some incredibly skilled goals. Routinely he would deke out more than one defender, then the goaltender and even if he didn’t score on that play, the notice was served that he was something to pay special attention to while other teams were on the man advantage. Obviously, he also became one of the B-Sens top shootout players.

More than that though, Daugavins showed a truly gritty side to his game. He went into corners and hit guys hard to get that puck back, aggressively winning puck battles both 5 on 5 and on the PK. Looking at him you’d think he was a smaller player with a flare for offense and nothing much more, but Kaspars frame is wired with muscle as he’s close to 210 pounds and 6 feet.

So, do the Sens need another player who can PK and possibly play exclusively in the bottom 6? Yes they do, especially a fan-favourite and clubhouse favourite like The Rooster. His 20 points in 23 games extrapolates to roughly 70 points over a full season, so it’s not as if Daugavins is only a checking line player, he can play top 6 minutes and while we’re on the topic of promoting from within, shouldn’t the Sens be paying close attention to him? At 23 years old, K-Daug is still maturing as both a hockey player and a human being, so there’s still a lot of work to do and a lot of growth to go through as a hockey player, but sometimes you see something in a player that has you believing. Then you see it again and again...this was the case with Daugavins. He has more than shown he’s capable in all three zones, as well as being an accomplished PK-er in Bingo and a shootout specialist, so while there’s more to learn, the foundation is there in spades. He might need another year in Bingo - particularly if Kurt Kleinendorst is there - which it appears he will be, but he’s one to keep an eye on right from training camp and pre-season.

After all, he’s proven so far that this Daug has bite.



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Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:22 pm by sandysensfan

Shoutout specialist? Bring him up ... like NOW.

stempniaksen

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:08 pm by stempniaksen

Why do I get the feeling that this thread is only up because of his personality?

I'm not trying to trash on the kid because I like him and think there is likely a future in the NHL for him (whether it's with the Sens or not is a different question) but why is he so worthy of a thread when he isn't even a top-five forward prospect (probably closer to 10).

I think we *already* have a logjam up front without tossing his name in the equation, lol. If he fights for every inch in training camp and earns himself a spot I will be thrilled for him, I just think a thread dedicated entirely to him is a little bit premature.

PTFlea

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:15 pm by PTFlea

stempniaksen wrote:Why do I get the feeling that this thread is only up because of his personality?

I'm not trying to trash on the kid because I like him and think there is likely a future in the NHL for him (whether it's with the Sens or not is a different question) but why is he so worthy of a thread when he isn't even a top-five forward prospect (probably closer to 10).

I think we *already* have a logjam up front without tossing his name in the equation, lol. If he fights for every inch in training camp and earns himself a spot I will be thrilled for him, I just think a thread dedicated entirely to him is a little bit premature.

I was on the bandwagon way before the stache and the theatrics. He's been really solid for Bingo and got the added responsibility of being a PKer as well. Watching the Finals via stream got my attention in a big way - tons of clutch plays, great moves to score big goals and a definite level of grit and compete. I don't think this is premature at all, this was a prospect that could easily have been forgotten, but with his effort this year, I think he's shown that he has the right levels of skill + grit to be a player - hopefully in the NHL and hopefully soon.

stempniaksen

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:25 pm by stempniaksen

SpezDispenser wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:Why do I get the feeling that this thread is only up because of his personality?

I'm not trying to trash on the kid because I like him and think there is likely a future in the NHL for him (whether it's with the Sens or not is a different question) but why is he so worthy of a thread when he isn't even a top-five forward prospect (probably closer to 10).

I think we *already* have a logjam up front without tossing his name in the equation, lol. If he fights for every inch in training camp and earns himself a spot I will be thrilled for him, I just think a thread dedicated entirely to him is a little bit premature.

I was on the bandwagon way before the stache and the theatrics. He's been really solid for Bingo and got the added responsibility of being a PKer as well. Watching the Finals via stream got my attention in a big way - tons of clutch plays, great moves to score big goals and a definite level of grit and compete. I don't think this is premature at all, this was a prospect that could easily have been forgotten, but with his effort this year, I think he's shown that he has the right levels of skill + grit to be a player - hopefully in the NHL and hopefully soon.

I agree with you, but the guy has one heck of an uphill battle I think. He's obviously behind Greening, Condra, Smith and Butler on the depth chart and a case could be made that he's behind O'Brien, Wick and Da Costa as well. That's not even counting guys like Silfverberg, Caporusso and Petersson who haven't suited up professionally yet or the boat load of prospects we are about to add via the draft.

My prediction is that he we will re-sign to a two-year deal and that he is gone to be a tweener type player for another organization in the next 2 years. It's really a shame because this kid seems like he deserves better, but he won't get it on the Sens who are to soon to have one of the deeper prospect pools in the league.

PTFlea

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:36 pm by PTFlea

stempniaksen wrote:I agree with you, but the guy has one heck of an uphill battle I think. He's obviously behind Greening, Condra, Smith and Butler on the depth chart and a case could be made that he's behind O'Brien, Wick and Da Costa as well. That's not even counting guys like Silfverberg, Caporusso and Petersson who haven't suited up professionally yet or the boat load of prospects we are about to add via the draft.

My prediction is that he we will re-sign to a two-year deal and that he is gone to be a tweener type player for another organization in the next 2 years. It's really a shame because this kid seems like he deserves better, but he won't get it on the Sens who are to soon to have one of the deeper prospect pools in the league.

I'm with you. That's why I wrote this more or less, just to champion his name a bit. I'm not sure he'll ever make it, but if he's gonna, this is the time for him to stake a claim and get his foot in the door. Once, Silfverberg and the two 1st rounders get to NA - or jump to the pros, either he's made it, or he's run out of rope. And I find that a shame seeing as how much he's improved from the beginning of his NA career to now. I think he's ahead of Da Costa for the right now, but I see Da Costa passing him too.

I can also see him being signed and traded at some point, but I urge the Sens' brass to take a long hard look first.

wprager

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:43 pm by wprager

stempniaksen wrote:Why do I get the feeling that this thread is only up because of his personality?

I'm not trying to trash on the kid because I like him and think there is likely a future in the NHL for him (whether it's with the Sens or not is a different question) but why is he so worthy of a thread when he isn't even a top-five forward prospect (probably closer to 10).

I think we *already* have a logjam up front without tossing his name in the equation, lol. If he fights for every inch in training camp and earns himself a spot I will be thrilled for him, I just think a thread dedicated entirely to him is a little bit premature.

Yes, he has personality, but, his personality is actually a galvanizing force in the dressing room, rather than a divisive one, as is often the case. He's the class clown who makes fun of himself and not others, thereby putting everyone at ease.

And let's not forget 20 points in 23 playoff games *PLAYING ON THE THIRD LINE*.

wprager

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:48 pm by wprager

stempniaksen wrote:
I agree with you, but the guy has one heck of an uphill battle I think. He's obviously behind Greening, Condra, Smith and Butler on the depth chart and a case could be made that he's behind O'Brien, Wick and Da Costa as well. That's not even counting guys like Silfverberg, Caporusso and Petersson who haven't suited up professionally yet or the boat load of prospects we are about to add via the draft.

My prediction is that he we will re-sign to a two-year deal and that he is gone to be a tweener type player for another organization in the next 2 years. It's really a shame because this kid seems like he deserves better, but he won't get it on the Sens who are to soon to have one of the deeper prospect pools in the league.

How is he behind all those guys??? Those with the one-way contracts, sure. However Smith is a 4th line player (or at least he was under Clouston; we'll see there). Greening has size, speed and hard shot, but he is not a jedi yet. Even Butler, given what we saw last year with Regin, is not a lock.

There's no way he's behind O'Brien or Caporusso. Capo needs 1-2 years in the AHL. Petersson and SIlverberg have not played NA style hockey yet. Wick is where Daugavins was 2-3 years ago. I don't even know what to say about Da Costa -- I just hope he's not the next Fabian.

Camp will have a lot to say about roster spots, of course, but only the guys with the one-ways have *any* advantage right now.

stempniaksen

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:14 pm by stempniaksen

SpezDispenser wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:I agree with you, but the guy has one heck of an uphill battle I think. He's obviously behind Greening, Condra, Smith and Butler on the depth chart and a case could be made that he's behind O'Brien, Wick and Da Costa as well. That's not even counting guys like Silfverberg, Caporusso and Petersson who haven't suited up professionally yet or the boat load of prospects we are about to add via the draft.

My prediction is that he we will re-sign to a two-year deal and that he is gone to be a tweener type player for another organization in the next 2 years. It's really a shame because this kid seems like he deserves better, but he won't get it on the Sens who are to soon to have one of the deeper prospect pools in the league.

I'm with you. That's why I wrote this more or less, just to champion his name a bit. I'm not sure he'll ever make it, but if he's gonna, this is the time for him to stake a claim and get his foot in the door. Once, Silfverberg and the two 1st rounders get to NA - or jump to the pros, either he's made it, or he's run out of rope. And I find that a shame seeing as how much he's improved from the beginning of his NA career to now. I think he's ahead of Da Costa for the right now, but I see Da Costa passing him too.

I can also see him being signed and traded at some point, but I urge the Sens' brass to take a long hard look first.

I tend to agree with everything you put down there. I don't wanna come across as the negative nancy who is automatically writing this guy off because that truly isn't the case. What I do see is that there are about 5 guys ahead of him on the depth chart right now and another 5-6 guys who I think will pass him (some as early as next year). I think if there's ever a season for him to make the team it is next year (and we have MAYBE 2 spots available total in that forward lineup, which will make it incredibly difficult).

Like I said before, I see an NHL future for this guy somewhere, I just don't think that place is with the Ottawa Senators. Not with the type of prospects we have coming up and the type of young talent we have on the NHL roster that play similar roles to "Rooster".

PTFlea

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:44 pm by PTFlea

I can agree with that Stemp, he has to seize the day right out of camp.

spader

Post Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:41 pm by spader

wprager wrote:
stempniaksen wrote:
I agree with you, but the guy has one heck of an uphill battle I think. He's obviously behind Greening, Condra, Smith and Butler on the depth chart and a case could be made that he's behind O'Brien, Wick and Da Costa as well. That's not even counting guys like Silfverberg, Caporusso and Petersson who haven't suited up professionally yet or the boat load of prospects we are about to add via the draft.

My prediction is that he we will re-sign to a two-year deal and that he is gone to be a tweener type player for another organization in the next 2 years. It's really a shame because this kid seems like he deserves better, but he won't get it on the Sens who are to soon to have one of the deeper prospect pools in the league.

How is he behind all those guys??? Those with the one-way contracts, sure. However Smith is a 4th line player (or at least he was under Clouston; we'll see there). Greening has size, speed and hard shot, but he is not a jedi yet. Even Butler, given what we saw last year with Regin, is not a lock.

There's no way he's behind O'Brien or Caporusso. Capo needs 1-2 years in the AHL. Petersson and SIlverberg have not played NA style hockey yet. Wick is where Daugavins was 2-3 years ago. I don't even know what to say about Da Costa -- I just hope he's not the next Fabian.

Camp will have a lot to say about roster spots, of course, but only the guys with the one-ways have *any* advantage right now.

Agreed. He's behind Greening, Smith and Butler the same way that he's behind Spezza and Alfie. He'll be one of the first callups if he resigns this year. If he improves on his playoff performance, he'll be fairly high on the callup list. DaCosta, our FRPs, Condra (if he signs a 2-way, which I think is likely), Silf (if he comes to NA), Wick, Potulny, (if they re-sign) etc will all be fighting to move up on the depth chart. I think KD can vault himself above the competition. It won't be easy, but he'd be in a position to improve his standing.

Flo The Action

Post Tue Jun 14, 2011 4:17 am by Flo The Action

you guys keep talking about wick. the guy was on a one year deal. i won't be surprised if he heads back to Europe this coming season.

daug could get his chance, but i'm not sure he'll make it.

wprager

Post Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:16 am by wprager

I don't think anyone is talking about Wick. Sempniaksen said that a case could be made that a number of players (including Wick) are ahead of KD (hmm, maybe his NHL nickname could be Mac-n-Cheese, now that Curtis is gone). I said that Wick is where Daugavins was 2-3 years ago, and Spader said Wick is one of many who will be trying to move up the depth chart.

Honestly, I was surprised when there was all this excitement about him coming over. He had a good showing at the Olympics -- not great, mind you -- but maybe he stood out because the rest of the Swiss team was just bad.

Anyhow, I completely agree that Wick is more likely to return to Europe than he is to make the O-Sens lineup this year.

tim1_2

Post Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:26 am by tim1_2

I doubt there will be room for him on opening day, but he'd be among the first guys to call-up. He'll get his shot, it just may be a short one. He'll have to make the most of it.

wprager

Post Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:46 am by wprager

To be honest, the Sens have 9 forwards on one-way contracts, Butler will surely be re-signed, and there's a very good chance they also keep Shannon. Murray has said they will draft someone who will step into the lineup. If they carry 13 forwards that leaves 1 spot between Condra, Daugavins, DaCOsta, O'Brien, Wick, Petersson, Silfverberg, and a possible free agent signing.

Murray might move a forward (or two) in order to move up in the draft, but if he doesn't, there's really no room there.

Oh, Tim Murray said that there's really just one scenario for the draft that he didn't like. There are 5 players that the Sens would be really happy to take, and if they are all gone they'd probably trade down (of course, they are probably just as likely to trade up to avoid that situation).

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