Guess where Phillips ends up

rooneypoo wrote:

Number Twenty Nine wrote:I thought he was going nowhere and was going to be our future captain?

Once again, name a better choice & I'll try not to laugh too hard.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:After going over the list of 2011 FA D, I'll say nowhere, & that he is re-signed here.

You've already agreed that our D is crowded without Phillips so why would they be shopping the FA market?

Gonchar, Kuba, Campoli, Carkner, Lee, Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen all fighting for 6 spots.

Gonchar - Do we really think he's going anywhere with the term left on his deal?
Campoli - Why not re-sign him? He's still relatively young, still showing improvement on the defensive side, he's an RFA and he'll be a cheap re-signing. Throw in the fact that a first rounder was involved in obtaining him in the first place.
Lee - No one wants him and he's shown now that he's a capable 7th if not 6th D
Karlsson - Obviously he's here
Carkner - Perfect bottom pairing D who can play some PK. No reason to move him.
Kuba - Good luck finding a taker. Maybe someone takes him in the off season or he's bought out so we'll give that one as gone for the sake of argument.

So that's 5 spots taken up with one of Rundblad or Cowen taking the 6th. Do they go with 7 D again this year? I'm not convinced since it's a re-build and they'll probably be pinching pennies especially if they buy out Kuba.

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:After going over the list of 2011 FA D, I'll say nowhere, & that he is re-signed here.

You've already agreed that our D is crowded without Phillips so why would they be shopping the FA market?

Gonchar, Kuba, Campoli, Carkner, Lee, Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen all fighting for 6 spots.

Gonchar - Do we really think he's going anywhere with the term left on his deal?
Campoli - Why not re-sign him? He's still relatively young, still showing improvement on the defensive side, he's an RFA and he'll be a cheap re-signing. Throw in the fact that a first rounder was involved in obtaining him in the first place.
Lee - No one wants him and he's shown now that he's a capable 7th if not 6th D
Karlsson - Obviously he's here
Carkner - Perfect bottom pairing D who can play some PK. No reason to move him.
Kuba - Good luck finding a taker. Maybe someone takes him in the off season or he's bought out so we'll give that one as gone for the sake of argument.

So that's 5 spots taken up with one of Rundblad or Cowen taking the 6th. Do they go with 7 D again this year? I'm not convinced since it's a re-build and they'll probably be pinching pennies especially if they buy out Kuba.

We're not starting next year with that sorry-sack, cluster-Diddle of a D core. No Cussing way. Melnyk is a guy who wants to win, sooner rather than later. You'll be seeing some of those players / contracts going for sure, if it can be done. Our D was too brutal this year to think about bringing it back basically entirely intact, with the only change being Phillips gone & a rookie inserted.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:After going over the list of 2011 FA D, I'll say nowhere, & that he is re-signed here.

You've already agreed that our D is crowded without Phillips so why would they be shopping the FA market?

Gonchar, Kuba, Campoli, Carkner, Lee, Karlsson, Rundblad, Cowen all fighting for 6 spots.

Gonchar - Do we really think he's going anywhere with the term left on his deal?
Campoli - Why not re-sign him? He's still relatively young, still showing improvement on the defensive side, he's an RFA and he'll be a cheap re-signing. Throw in the fact that a first rounder was involved in obtaining him in the first place.
Lee - No one wants him and he's shown now that he's a capable 7th if not 6th D
Karlsson - Obviously he's here
Carkner - Perfect bottom pairing D who can play some PK. No reason to move him.
Kuba - Good luck finding a taker. Maybe someone takes him in the off season or he's bought out so we'll give that one as gone for the sake of argument.

So that's 5 spots taken up with one of Rundblad or Cowen taking the 6th. Do they go with 7 D again this year? I'm not convinced since it's a re-build and they'll probably be pinching pennies especially if they buy out Kuba.

We're not starting next year with that sorry-sack, cluster-Diddle of a D core. No Cussing way. Melnyk is a guy who wants to win, sooner rather than later. You'll be seeing some of those players / contracts going for sure, if it can be done. Our D was too brutal this year to think about bringing it back basically entirely intact, with the only change being Phillips gone & a rookie inserted.

Actually, in my scenario, I'm being realistic about the amount of movement that is acutally possible and it's Kuba AND Phillips gone. You've already said don't get our hopes up since there probably won't be much movement and now your saying there will be lots but we'll keep Phillips.

So what changes do you anticipate? What does our D look like next season?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:You also said Sens fans are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think there'll be a lot of movement did you not?

I'm being realistic here. Obviously they regret the Gonchar signing but who would take that contract? Obviously they'd love to move Kuba but again, who would take that contract? Why would they move out Campoli? He's one of the only D that actually is improving despite the disastrous season the Sens are having and he's young, an RFA and will be cheap. Lee? No one wants him. Phillips - He's one piece they have a chance at trading and one player that played a big role in the crap-fest that is our D this year. Fine they keep him since they don't like the FA market. That's yet another piece of this disastrous D core that remains.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:You also said Sens fans are setting themselves up for disappointment if they think there'll be a lot of movement did you not?