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I wonder if a team that could make a push in the playoffs would give us their first for Kovalev and our 3rd.

Bass Destruction wrote:I wonder if a team that could make a push in the playoffs would give us their first for Kovalev and our 3rd.

Why would they do that when they can just give the Sens a 3rd? That way, they can keep their own 1st.

I know in your offer the 3rd gives them something to show for the trade when Kovalev leaves via the free agent route; but teams don't really like giving up 1st's all that often.

CockRoche wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:I wonder if a team that could make a push in the playoffs would give us their first for Kovalev and our 3rd.

Why would they do that when they can just give the Sens a 3rd? That way, they can keep their own 1st.

I know in your offer the 3rd gives them something to show for the trade when Kovalev leaves via the free agent route; but teams don't really like giving up 1st's all that often.

I just figured a team needing a little more offensive spark, that will likely go far, is only losing about 35 spots in the draft.

And I have feeling kovy might fetch a 2nd or 3rd and decent (not blue chip) prospect.

Bass Destruction wrote:

CockRoche wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:I wonder if a team that could make a push in the playoffs would give us their first for Kovalev and our 3rd.

Why would they do that when they can just give the Sens a 3rd? That way, they can keep their own 1st.

I know in your offer the 3rd gives them something to show for the trade when Kovalev leaves via the free agent route; but teams don't really like giving up 1st's all that often.

I just figured a team needing a little more offensive spark, that will likely go far, is only losing about 35 spots in the draft.

And I have feeling kovy might fetch a 2nd or 3rd and decent (not blue chip) prospect.

Good call. I never thought of it like that actually, but I still see teams 1st's as too valuable to give up for a rental of Kovalev's reputation; from a PR perspective.

Montreal is going to be in tough tomorrow today against the Islanders.

Playing on back-to-back nights after a game like the one they had against the Bruins is not easy.

CockRoche wrote:Montreal is going to be in tough tomorrow today against the Islanders.

Playing on back-to-back nights after a game like the one they had against the Bruins is not easy.

Dude. It's the Islanders.

Who will the Isles start in net? Snow? Goalie coach Mike Dunham?

EDIT: Whoops, missed the Montoya trade.

CockRoche wrote:Montreal is going to be in tough tomorrow today against the Islanders.

Playing on back-to-back nights after a game like the one they had against the Bruins is not easy.

GO ISLES!!!!

All one needs to do is look at Pittsburgh to see what a well structured, thought-out and put together defence, along with decent goaltending can do for your team.

Pittsburgh is without Crosby, Malkin, Kunitz, Comrie, Cooke, Asham, Jeffrey and Letestu. They are missing their top 4 scorers, Top 3 centers, 2 best players, another center and grinder, yet they continue to win and are playing great against Los Angeles right now.

Ottawa has players in place to mold their team around a solid D and goalie as the Pens have done.

Time will tell if the prospects develop properly. I know one key puzzle piece that is getting the raw end of the stick early in his career.

CockRoche wrote:All one needs to do is look at Pittsburgh to see what a well structured, thought-out and put together defence, along with decent goaltending can do for your team.

Wasn't that where Murray was trying to go with Leclaire, Gonchar etc...?

Big Ev wrote:

CockRoche wrote:Montreal is going to be in tough tomorrow today against the Islanders.

Playing on back-to-back nights after a game like the one they had against the Bruins is not easy.

Dude. It's the Islanders.

You were saying?

Isles win 4-3 in the shootout.

I don't make predictions often, but when I do they are based on knowing the effects of day-to-day hockey pressures.

Diddle-a-doodle-doo, the Devils win over the Leafs in OT and the Isles win in OT.

SpezDispenser wrote: Diddle-a-doodle-doo, the Devils win over the Leafs in OT and the Isles win in OT.

Holy Dung...this is getting good.

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote: Diddle-a-doodle-doo, the Devils win over the Leafs in OT and the Isles win in OT.

Holy Dung...this is getting good sad.

closer to last overall....I thought we were done with those days

Michallica wrote:

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote: Diddle-a-doodle-doo, the Devils win over the Leafs in OT and the Isles win in OT.

Holy Dung...this is getting good sad.

closer to last overall....I thought we were done with those days

Just a bump in the road.

Michallica wrote:
closer to last overall....I thought we were done with those days

Cycle of life in the new NHL, can't stay competitive for that long without some top drafted talent joining the team regularily (unless you're Detroit).

Michallica wrote:

spader wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote: Diddle-a-doodle-doo, the Devils win over the Leafs in OT and the Isles win in OT.

Holy Dung...this is getting good sad.

closer to last overall....I thought we were done with those days

Right now, the best we can hope for is last overall. It's sad, but it gives us something to cheer for. We know that this team should have been better, but hopefully the Sens are putting a good, young team on the ice next year. They might not be great, but they'll build up to being great again. We had a shot (in '03 or '07 depending on who you ask) and missed. Now we finally realize that it's time to regroup and build back into an elite team. The Sens were a perennial threat for over a decade and won't get back to that glory by drafting in the middle of the pack. This is the best thing for the team going forward.

I'm just happy that, the same year we fully realize and accept that major changes are needed, we also find ourselves in a lottery position. It could be worse, we could suck all season, then make a late push just to Diddle up our chances at a good pick. Or we could trade all our rebuilding chips away for a one-dimensional player that has no business on a team that has nothing to surround him with. Anyone know a team like that?

Yep, a bump in the road is the way I feel as well. Could be wrong, but I think we'll be pretty damn exciting next year and we'll make the playoffs in 2 years from now - maybe 3, but I think 2.