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Yeah that proposal is a pipe dream. I don't think we have anything that would get us the Toronto 1st.

marakh wrote:Pipe dream, there's 29 other teams out there guys.
A top 5 pick for a combined 28 pts and - 43?

I also don't understand your logic Hemmie. He got Seguin last year so that justifies getting ripped in a deal?

The logic is that it means that Kessel deal is Seguin, that other kid they drafted (I can't remember his name), a signed Fisher, Phillips for the playoff run, and they dump Ryder. In essense, that TO pick this year is like found money.

Big Ev wrote:Yeah that proposal is a pipe dream. I don't think we have anything that we would part with to get us the Toronto 1st.

Fixed.

Of course we do. Our first.

We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

marakh wrote:Pipe dream, there's 29 other teams out there guys.
A top 5 pick for a combined 28 pts and - 43?

I also don't understand your logic Hemmie. He got Seguin last year so that justifies getting ripped in a deal?

Point taken- and you're right- it's not going to be an easy grab- but those two players would definitely push Boston over the edge.

Numbers are skewed when playing on poor teams. Those two players in Boston would make an already ridiculously tough team to play against 2-3 times tougher. Both are hard working, both are character players, and both are very well known to Chiarelli from his time spent in the organization.

I guess it'd be interesting to see what teams would be looking to give up to acquire that pick. In my opinion, you're not going to see significant contributing roster players being traded for it- it's just far too risky, and if the Leafs run the table in the home stretch of the season (as they usually do), it turns into a mid-round pick and is not necessarily worth whatever is given up.

Boston would look to upgrade their current roster, and fit the needs of their team to win a Cup. I think Fisher and Phillips give them an excellent shot at achieving that, and while it isn't guaranteed- I could see Boston rolling the dice.

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

That's just silly. That's a massive overpayment on our part even in a straight up trade.

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

That's just silly. That's a massive overpayment on our part even in a straight up trade.

It would take something like that, I can't see Chia giving that up for a pending UFA and Fisher. Chia isn't looking to trade the Leafs' pick, you'd have to overpay.

Boston isn't going to take on Fisher's contract with the uncertaintly over Marc Savard, they have plenty of centres there still and good luck to Julien to getting Fisher to play wing.

Boston would need a PMD over a shutdown d-man. Sure Fisher and Philips would improve the Bruins, they'd improve any team. We'd get the Bruins 1st pick at best for that. Chia isn't giving away that pick lightly, it's going to take a big offer to convince him to trade something he isn't planning to.

I'd love to get two first rounders and I'm sure BM is trying to get another one but it's not going to be easy at all.

At best we have a few 2nd rounders when all is said and done.

Two lottery picks are a pipe dream but we're not the only ones who'd want one and I think we can easily outbid by others.

Hoags wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

That's just silly. That's a massive overpayment on our part even in a straight up trade.

It would take something like that, I can't see Chia giving that up for a pending UFA and Fisher.

Boston isn't going to take on Fisher's contract with the uncertaintly over Marc Savard, they have plenty of centres there still and good luck to Julien to getting Fisher to play wing.

Boston would need a PMD over a shutdown d-man. Sure Fisher and Philips would improve the Bruins, they'd improve any team. We'd get the Bruins 1st pick at best for that. Chia isn't giving away that pick lightly, it's going to take a big offer to convince him to trade something he isn't planning to.

I'd love to get two first rounders and I'm sure BM is trying to get another one but it's not going to be easy at all.

At best we have a few 2nd rounders when all is said and done.

Two lottery picks are a pipe dream but we're not the only ones who'd want one and I think we can easily outbid by others.

Toronto isn't in a lotto pick situation and is not likely to be at the end of the season either.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Hoags wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

That's just silly. That's a massive overpayment on our part even in a straight up trade.

It would take something like that, I can't see Chia giving that up for a pending UFA and Fisher.

Boston isn't going to take on Fisher's contract with the uncertaintly over Marc Savard, they have plenty of centres there still and good luck to Julien to getting Fisher to play wing.

Boston would need a PMD over a shutdown d-man. Sure Fisher and Philips would improve the Bruins, they'd improve any team. We'd get the Bruins 1st pick at best for that. Chia isn't giving away that pick lightly, it's going to take a big offer to convince him to trade something he isn't planning to.

I'd love to get two first rounders and I'm sure BM is trying to get another one but it's not going to be easy at all.

At best we have a few 2nd rounders when all is said and done.

Two lottery picks are a pipe dream but we're not the only ones who'd want one and I think we can easily outbid by others.

Toronto isn't in a lotto pick situation and is not likely to be at the end of the season either.

There are as of right now.

Yeah, start rooting for Toronto. I know it hurts, but we don't want Boston to get a nice pick.

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

I'd easily trade Rundblad for the pick if we drafted Larsson with our own.

The newest Maple Leaf feels he has something to prove and can’t wait to get the chance to do it.

That opportunity arrives for forward Joffrey Lupul as soon as Thursday night after being dealt to the Leafs in a trade that sends veteran defenceman Francois Beauchemin to Anaheim.

As is his way, Leafs general manager Brian Burke didn’t wait until the Feb. 28 trade deadline to get busy, announcing the deal shortly after noon on Wednesday.

There is speculation more deals are in the works.

In Lupul, the Leafs get a forward who has scored more than 20 goals three times in his career, including a career high 28 in the 2005-06 season. Plagued by back problems the past two seasons in Anaheim, he has just five goals and eight assists in 26 games with the Ducks this season.

“I definitely have a lot to prove and I’m looking forward to getting the opportunity,” the 27-year-old winger said from Vancouver where the Ducks meet the Canucks Wednesday. “I know that my best hockey is still ahead of me and I think there’s a lot I can bring to the team.

“I still feel 100% I can take my game to the next level.”

He’ll get that chance right out of the gate. Leafs coach Ron Wilson said he plans to debut Lupul on a line with Clarke MacArthur and Tyler Bozak. Lupul says he feels fit and healthy but wasn’t getting the chance to show it in Anaheim.

“We’ve been looking for goal scoring, both inside and out and an opportunity to pick up Joffrey Lupul presented itself,” Wilson said. “We think that we’re deep enough as an organization to give up a player like (Beauchemin), who’s played well for us and who was a leader on and off the ice.

"We need to score more goals and giving Lupul an opportunity, he should be able to help us offensively."

Included in the deal is defenceman Jake Gardiner, a puck-moving defenceman for the University of Wisconsin who Burke drafted in the first round for the Ducks in 2008. Also coming Toronto’s way is a conditional fourth-round pick.

Popular in the Leafs’ dressing room, Beauchemin was a steady, stay-at-home defenceman who chewed up many minutes, often against the opposition’s top forward line. The Leafs will call up another blueliner from the Marlies to take his roster spot.

“I was kind of expecting something to happen with all the rumours that were out there,” said Beauchemin, who returns to the Ducks team he left as a free agent in the summer of 2009. “I loved it here. I just wish I could have helped the team get to the playoffs.”
In another possible move to clear roster space, the Leafs put forward John Mitchell on waivers on Wednesday.

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Clarke MacArthur on the top line!! I know I don't have much to laugh about considering how our top line has done...but still...this is laugh worthy.

Now, there is one huge reason they suck so bad!

I love this:

“I still feel 100% I can take my game to the next level.”
He’ll get that chance right out of the gate. Leafs coach Ron Wilson said he plans to debut Lupul on a line with Clarke MacArthur and Tyler Bozak.

The Boz?!?!?

Big Ev wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

I'd easily trade Rundblad for the pick if we drafted Larsson with our own.

NO!
Haven't you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gGQUcVItc&feature=player_embedded

He's leading defencemen in the Swedish Elite, and is ranked 7th overall in the league for scoring- and he's just turned 20! I'm not sure I'd trade Rundblad for Larsson- He's like Karlsson, but bigger. All signs point to him being a sick, sick player.

SensGirl11 wrote:Clarke MacArthur on the top line!! I know I don't have much to laugh about considering how our top line has done...but still...this is laugh worthy.

Now, there is one huge reason they suck so bad!

I love this:

“I still feel 100% I can take my game to the next level.”
He’ll get that chance right out of the gate. Leafs coach Ron Wilson said he plans to debut Lupul on a line with Clarke MacArthur and Tyler Bozak.

MacArther and Bozak? Ouch.

Jordo wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Jordo wrote:

Hoags wrote:We'd have to part with Karlsson for TO's pick. That would work.

Karlsson's going nowhere, but I'd even go as far as adding Weircioch to the equation.

Karlsson, Rundblad, and Cowen aren't going anywhere. But if we can swap an additional D prospect for a high end forward prospect, you do it.

Imagine getting a Landeskog/Strome combo?

I'd easily trade Rundblad for the pick if we drafted Larsson with our own.

NO!
Haven't you seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5gGQUcVItc&feature=player_embedded

He's leading defencemen in the Swedish Elite, and is ranked 7th overall in the league for scoring- and he's just turned 20! I'm not sure I'd trade Rundblad for Larsson- He's like Karlsson, but bigger. All signs point to him being a sick, sick player.

I don't even see how this is debatable, sorry. You can point to his offense all you want, but he's 2 years older and he couldn't have played in the NHL at 17 like Larsson could have. Go to HFBoards and there is a thread about this exact same topic. Rundblad does not have any where near the same amount of potential that Larsson does. You'd be hard-pressed to find a GM who would rather have Rundblad over Larsson, IMO.

Larsson is gonna be a franchise #1 d-man if all pans out, Rundblad will be more like Karlsson-lite. Hell, I'd rather have Larsson than Karlsson to be honest.