2011 NHL Entry Draft Watch

tim1_2 wrote:A good AHL team isn't necessarily representative of a team's prospect pool...but I get your point.

The actual thing to do, is not to bother. Has anyone, ever, at the end of these arguments said "oh yeah, good point, you were right this whole time"???

Isn't the AHL where prospects play? Those young players in the NHL I don't think count as prospects do they?

sandysensfan wrote:
All you have to point out is the success the B-Sens are having in the Calder Cup playoffs vs the success the Marlies are having in the pl.... whoops -- GOLFING.

I didn't really want to to be honest. We were arguing about the Leafs being in the top 10 on HF and the Sens being at 16 - so we were going player for player. The AHL argument works for sure, but I felt there was more to gain by trumping their prospects one by one - and boy, they didn't like that at all.

sandysensfan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:A good AHL team isn't necessarily representative of a team's prospect pool...but I get your point.

The actual thing to do, is not to bother. Has anyone, ever, at the end of these arguments said "oh yeah, good point, you were right this whole time"???

Isn't the AHL where prospects play? Those young players in the NHL I don't think count as prospects do they?

A lot "elite" prospects never actually play in the AHL anymore, they go right to the NHL after junior. Our prospects are playing overseas for example.

sandysensfan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:A good AHL team isn't necessarily representative of a team's prospect pool...but I get your point.

The actual thing to do, is not to bother. Has anyone, ever, at the end of these arguments said "oh yeah, good point, you were right this whole time"???

Isn't the AHL where prospects play? Those young players in the NHL I don't think count as prospects do they?

Rundblad is one example of many. He's a guy that may never play a game in the AHL, but is a great prospect. Jared Cowen might be another guy that sees very little time in the AHL.

Also, the B-Sens might not even be in the playoffs if it weren't for Barry Brust...who's got nothing to do with the Ottawa Senators. Currently, the B-Sens are a good example of an AHL team BEING reflective of a teams prospects, but that's not always the case with AHL affiliates.

Found this on HF, it is a very good read I find:

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/5/17/2173855/2011-nhl-draft-an-interview-with-kirk-luedeke-of-bruins-2011-draft

SpezDispenser wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:
All you have to point out is the success the B-Sens are having in the Calder Cup playoffs vs the success the Marlies are having in the pl.... whoops -- GOLFING.

I didn't really want to to be honest. We were arguing about the Leafs being in the top 10 on HF and the Sens being at 16 - so we were going player for player. The AHL argument works for sure, but I felt there was more to gain by trumping their prospects one by one - and boy, they didn't like that at all.

If you're going to argue with a Leafs fan, try "walking a mile in his shoes" first. Then, by the time you start arguing, you'll be a mile away and he won't have his shoes on.

marakh wrote:Found this on HF, it is a very good read I find:

http://www.inlouwetrust.com/2011/5/17/2173855/2011-nhl-draft-an-interview-with-kirk-luedeke-of-bruins-2011-draft

very nice read. very imformative. we've heard alot about the top 6 picks but i like reading about the first 60 or so projections

Steve Kouleas tweeted me and he think Huberdeau is going #1 lol

Big Ev wrote:Steve Kouleas tweeted me and he think Huberdeau is going #1 lol

Other media writers will be doing the same, especially if Huberdeau keeps up his knack for OT goals(except tonight vs Kootenay). He is not going to be available at 6, that's for sure.

No guarantees. The Memorial Cup won't sway scouts too much, IMO.

Big Ev wrote:No guarantees. The Memorial Cup won't sway scouts too much, IMO.

In a draft where there's no clear cut N1 (RNH being the only stand-out), a stand-out performance against the best the country has to offer will certainly influence scouts IMO.

I'd love to have Jurco on the Sens. He seems like the kind of guy who would get a goal here and there when the team struggles offensively. Crazy hands and actually battles pretty hard. Needs lots of coaching and more smartness though.

marakh wrote:

Big Ev wrote:No guarantees. The Memorial Cup won't sway scouts too much, IMO.

In a draft where there's no clear cut N1 (RNH being the only stand-out), a stand-out performance against the best the country has to offer will certainly influence scouts IMO.

It's like 5 games, I don't think it makes a huge difference. Scouts know who he is by now. Plus he hasn't been dominant, I think Jurco has been better.

Article on Sens scouts meeting. Haven't read yet, so can't comment:

http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=563769

someone else cracking the top 5 brings us closer to lando

Michallica wrote:someone else cracking the top 5 brings us closer to lando

if we draft Lando IMO we might regret not grabing someone else further down the line.

Any good goalies in this draft that we might take a flyer on? We could use a couple.

Here are the lists of goalie ranked according to CSS:

Domestic (NA) - http://centralscouting.nhl.com/link3/cs/content.nsf/0/80D76F02D17B34208525786F004FA418/$FILE/FinalRankingsDomesticGoalies.pdf

International - http://centralscouting.nhl.com/link3/cs/content.nsf/0/BE8CFA0A8DBF7A818525786F004FFDC7/$FILE/FinalRankingsInternationalGoalies.pdf