GAME DAY:Carolina Hurricanes @ Ottawa Senators - 7:30pm ET - WED. Dec. 29, 2010

shabbs wrote:Anyone else worried that this 6-week Spezza-less span will cause Melnyk/Murray to make a panic trade?

If Spezza goes on LTIR, look out.

Otherwise we have no cap room.

I think BM would sell at the deadline if it came down to it. Remember he almost did until Clouston turned the team around in the remainder of the season and made him reconsider.

Hoags wrote:

shabbs wrote:Anyone else worried that this 6-week Spezza-less span will cause Melnyk/Murray to make a panic trade?

If Spezza goes on LTIR, look out.

Otherwise we have no cap room.

I think BM would sell at the deadline if it came down to it. Remember he almost did until Clouston turned the team around in the remainder of the season and made him reconsider.

I'm not worried because a "panic" move should have been made a long time ago and it wasn't then so it won't now.

SeawaySensFan wrote:What a fiasco. Time to blow this Dung up!!!

I'm sure 90% of people agree with you. Here's the problem:

1.Mike Fisher - NTC - becomes limited this summer
2.Alex Kovalev - NMC - I'm sure he'll accept a trade, but it's within his rights not to
3.Chris Phillips - NTC - I can see a scenario where he doesn't lift his NTC and Ottawa management tries to come to terms with him
4.Jason Spezza - NTC - this is probably a good thing, I'd like to keep him going forward
5.Filip Kuba - I believe his NTC has expired, but the way he's playing + the money he's getting = NMC. Unless Jersey wants to flip Langenbrunner for him - which I could see + Langenbrunner is an expiring contract and a potential trade bait for the deadline, but he too has a Cussing NTC
6.Sergei Gonchar - has a NMC + his salary makes it impossible - which is probably good because I'd like to keep him going forward - even though he's been GOD awfl
7.Chris Kelly - do we trade him, or do we keep him as Fisher's replacement?
8.Chris Neil - part of the core for the rebuild
9.Daniel Alfredsson - full NMC

So what does this leave to blow this fiasco up?

1.Jarkko Ruutu
2.Milan Michalek - although, do you trade a young forward with potential for much less than he's worth because of his struggles + injury issues?
3.Nick Foligno - again, do you trade a young player with scoring potential?
4.Peter Regin - Cuss off, he's the future
5.Jesse Winchester - why bother? He's cheap, effective and you'd spend the same money or more replacing him
6.Z.Smith - part of the 4th line for years to come
7.Ryan Shannon - you could I guess, but I would suggest looking into re-signing him
8.Erik Karlsson - hahahah, yeah right
9.Matt Carkner - who would even want him? Plus, he's cheap and he's tough
10.Chris Campoli - depends on the offers.

So much for blowing this up, huh?

As tempted as I am to join in with the blow-up festivities, a small positive light I'd like to shed:

Sens are 4-3-2 in their last 8 games, and this 3rd regulation loss (4-0 to carolina) is the first time in 8 games the sens were not in a close contest (i.e. 1 goal game down to the final minute). We all know the senators are not a good team, but at times they've shown the potential to be a playoff team. Spezza's loss really hurts, but I'd cut them some slack for this game. Definitely it was a piss poor performance in front of the home crowd, and probably worse because we all felt they were going to win this one. But its been a while since they've given such a poor performance (i.e. it was due). Senators still have a shot of ending the week at .500 while still keeping competitive in the East playoffs, and a stone's throw away from the bottom 3 at the same time. Its not THAT bad of a scenario

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:What a fiasco. Time to blow this Dung up!!!

I'm sure 90% of people agree with you. Here's the problem:

1.Mike Fisher - NTC - becomes limited this summer
2.Alex Kovalev - NMC - I'm sure he'll accept a trade, but it's within his rights not to
3.Chris Phillips - NTC - I can see a scenario where he doesn't lift his NTC and Ottawa management tries to come to terms with him
4.Jason Spezza - NTC - this is probably a good thing, I'd like to keep him going forward
5.Filip Kuba - I believe his NTC has expired, but the way he's playing + the money he's getting = NMC. Unless Jersey wants to flip Langenbrunner for him - which I could see + Langenbrunner is an expiring contract and a potential trade bait for the deadline, but he too has a Cussing NTC
6.Sergei Gonchar - has a NMC + his salary makes it impossible - which is probably good because I'd like to keep him going forward - even though he's been GOD awfl
7.Chris Kelly - do we trade him, or do we keep him as Fisher's replacement?
8.Chris Neil - part of the core for the rebuild
9.Daniel Alfredsson - full NMC

So what does this leave to blow this fiasco up?

1.Jarkko Ruutu
2.Milan Michalek - although, do you trade a young forward with potential for much less than he's worth because of his struggles + injury issues?
3.Nick Foligno - again, do you trade a young player with scoring potential?
4.Peter Regin - Cuss off, he's the future
5.Jesse Winchester - why bother? He's cheap, effective and you'd spend the same money or more replacing him
6.Z.Smith - part of the 4th line for years to come
7.Ryan Shannon - you could I guess, but I would suggest looking into re-signing him
8.Erik Karlsson - hahahah, yeah right
9.Matt Carkner - who would even want him? Plus, he's cheap and he's tough
10.Chris Campoli - depends on the offers.

So much for blowing this up, huh?

i agree with 90% of what you're outlining.
i haven't given up on michalek. in the next few years we could become a better team offensively and he could contribute to that. he's a good complementary player on a line where the other two line mates are hot.
i'd give nick foligno another shot next year.
peter regin also gets another shot, he's shown us he can be better.

kovalev, fisher, kuba can be traded, phillips at the deadline and offer him another contract next summer.fisher might not want to lift his NTC (which is fine by me as i'm on the fence with him. but he might be gone by the end of the summer)


to me the fact that BM hasn't done anything so far pretty much spells it out that we're going to be sellers at the deadline. i'm fine with that. it would give a chance to a few guys in bingo like butler to get some grease under their wheels in the NHL.
i'm just sorry for you guys that you'l get to watch this for the remainder of the year. i'm off to asia in less then 2 weeks so if we're to fall to the bottom of the standings, it couldn't happen at a better time.

On the plus side, Winchester, Shannon and Z.Smith were awesome last night. Not okay, not good, awesome. Really, really impressed. :KKK:

Yuck. i can't believe I watched that. i couldn't take my eyes off the tv. i admit to having a rubber neck while driving as well, i like watching train wrecks.

Straight Shooter wrote:Yuck. i can't believe I watched that. i couldn't take my eyes off the tv. i admit to having a rubber neck while driving as well, i like watching train wrecks.

Meh. It's one game and the Sens first game without Spezza, well with this injury at least, haha.

There is going to be a lot more losses than wins in the next 6 weeks a people just need to realize that this year the Sens will not be competing for Lord Stanley's Mug.